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    Here is a house that I am working on and I thought, as usual, I would get started early.

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    This one will be interesting. Almost every part has a different material and color. The architect us taking some risks and they want to see if it pays off. I am looking forward to this one.
    Bobby Parker
    www.bobby-parker.com
    e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
    phone: 2188206812

    My current hardware setup:
    • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
    • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
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    • ​Windows 11 Pro

  • #2
    On to the landscape, which will add a lot. Also, I want to get some shadows on the house, so I am going to move some trees to do just that.

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    Bobby Parker
    www.bobby-parker.com
    e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
    phone: 2188206812

    My current hardware setup:
    • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
    • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
    • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
    • ​Windows 11 Pro

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    • #3
      Update. My shadows are coming out way to dark, so I'll have to play with that. It might be accurate, but it's too dark. I am enjoying V-Ray 3; the presets are awesome.

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      I looked at the shadows on my 27" Thunderbolt and they look good. I guess my workstation monitor is showing it a little dark. I do have to put more love into the landscape. The client didn't want to pay for me doing landscape, but it adds to the image, so I am trying to keep it simple.
      Last edited by glorybound; 02-03-2015, 10:30 AM.
      Bobby Parker
      www.bobby-parker.com
      e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
      phone: 2188206812

      My current hardware setup:
      • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
      • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
      • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
      • ​Windows 11 Pro

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      • #4
        I wouldn't make the shadows any brighter. I think they're too bright as they are. I'll never understand people's (mostly architect's) petrification of shadows. Architects always bang on about "describing form" and blah blah blah, but is this not exactly what shadow and light does?
        James Burrell www.objektiv-j.com
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        • #5
          shadows, light, deliciousness: http://fuckyeahbrutalism.tumblr.com/
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          • #6
            Nice! A agree, way to bright, but he wanted to see the siding around the house
            Bobby Parker
            www.bobby-parker.com
            e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
            phone: 2188206812

            My current hardware setup:
            • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
            • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
            • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
            • ​Windows 11 Pro

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            • #7
              It's funny. I have my monitor in front of a window. It was a beautiful sunny and clear day today, with snow. I had to put some light blocking curtains up. it wasn't my monitor, it was the bright window.
              Bobby Parker
              www.bobby-parker.com
              e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
              phone: 2188206812

              My current hardware setup:
              • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
              • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
              • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
              • ​Windows 11 Pro

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pixelcon View Post
                I wouldn't make the shadows any brighter. I think they're too bright as they are. I'll never understand people's (mostly architect's) petrification of shadows. Architects always bang on about "describing form" and blah blah blah, but is this not exactly what shadow and light does?
                amen to that. So annoying!!
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                • #9
                  Nothing beats my experience of having an architect giving me RAL colours for their multi-coloured facade, then once I delivered, they complained that the colours were wrong; ie brighter and darker. I tried to explain that when you reflect the sky, it may make the panels appear lighter, and when in shade, they may be darker... but no, I was wrong. I ended up delivering masks for each colour so they could adjust in photoshop to suit their own preferences with. They proceeded to adjust the rendered colours to match the RAL colours EXACTLY.... ie paint fill each mask with the RAL colour. You can only imagine my disbelief when they showed me the result, even more so when it was delivered with the look of smug self satisfaction akin to a cat proudly presenting you with the corpse of your pet budgie.
                  Patrick Macdonald
                  Lighting TD : http://reformstudios.com Developer of "Mission Control", the spreadsheet editor for 3ds Max http://reformstudios.com/mission-control-for-3ds-max/



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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by re:FORM View Post
                    Nothing beats my experience of having an architect giving me RAL colours for their multi-coloured facade, then once I delivered, they complained that the colours were wrong; ie brighter and darker. I tried to explain that when you reflect the sky, it may make the panels appear lighter, and when in shade, they may be darker... but no, I was wrong. I ended up delivering masks for each colour so they could adjust in photoshop to suit their own preferences with. They proceeded to adjust the rendered colours to match the RAL colours EXACTLY.... ie paint fill each mask with the RAL colour. You can only imagine my disbelief when they showed me the result, even more so when it was delivered with the look of smug self satisfaction akin to a cat proudly presenting you with the corpse of your pet budgie.
                    I face nonsense regularely, and the bright shadows even more !
                    Typical evolution of a project :

                    Me : Send first previews
                    Architect : Wow wow wow, why aren't all façades evenly lit ? There's one in the light and another in the shadow
                    Me : That's to have contrast and it helps define and read the volumes.
                    A : No no, put the sun right behind the camera so that everything is in the light
                    Me : Are you SURE ? it will make evrything flat
                    A : Yes of course, we can't present a building with a façade in the shadow !
                    Me : Send a new view with everything lit
                    A : Hmm, everything is so flat, there is no punch to this image, it's dull, etc, etc.
                    Me : Yeah, maybe we should bring back those shadows then ?
                    A : Ok, but make them very faint, very light, a very, very light gray please
                    Me : I do what they want, send the image
                    A : It doesn't look very realistic
                    Me: REALLY ??

                    mekene

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by theedge View Post
                      I face nonsense regularely, and the bright shadows even more !
                      Typical evolution of a project :

                      Me : Send first previews
                      Architect : Wow wow wow, why aren't all façades evenly lit ? There's one in the light and another in the shadow
                      Me : That's to have contrast and it helps define and read the volumes.
                      A : No no, put the sun right behind the camera so that everything is in the light
                      Me : Are you SURE ? it will make evrything flat
                      A : Yes of course, we can't present a building with a façade in the shadow !
                      Me : Send a new view with everything lit
                      A : Hmm, everything is so flat, there is no punch to this image, it's dull, etc, etc.
                      Me : Yeah, maybe we should bring back those shadows then ?
                      A : Ok, but make them very faint, very light, a very, very light gray please
                      Me : I do what they want, send the image
                      A : It doesn't look very realistic
                      Me: REALLY ??
                      LOL yup, I get the same here...
                      Cheers,
                      -dave
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                      • #12
                        Yes, me too. Or, "why doesn't my image look as good as the ones in your portfolio?" Well, because you broke all the rules I had in place!
                        Bobby Parker
                        www.bobby-parker.com
                        e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                        phone: 2188206812

                        My current hardware setup:
                        • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                        • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                        • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
                        • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                        • #13
                          Thx for the stories. Its always refreshing to see that everybody here has to deal with people like that.
                          Not shadows related but recently a client was evaluating my renders on a broken/miss calibrated monitor (everything had a green tint) which I didn't know and thus he was constantly complaining about the colors in the renders.
                          Last edited by Mokiki; 03-03-2015, 08:12 AM.
                          Cheers,
                          Oliver

                          https://www.artstation.com/mokiki

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by re:FORM View Post
                            Nothing beats my experience of having an architect giving me RAL colours for their multi-coloured facade, then once I delivered, they complained that the colours were wrong; ie brighter and darker. I tried to explain that when you reflect the sky, it may make the panels appear lighter, and when in shade, they may be darker... but no, I was wrong. I ended up delivering masks for each colour so they could adjust in photoshop to suit their own preferences with. They proceeded to adjust the rendered colours to match the RAL colours EXACTLY.... ie paint fill each mask with the RAL colour. You can only imagine my disbelief when they showed me the result, even more so when it was delivered with the look of smug self satisfaction akin to a cat proudly presenting you with the corpse of your pet budgie.
                            Originally posted by theedge View Post
                            I face nonsense regularely, and the bright shadows even more !
                            Typical evolution of a project :

                            Me : Send first previews
                            Architect : Wow wow wow, why aren't all façades evenly lit ? There's one in the light and another in the shadow
                            Me : That's to have contrast and it helps define and read the volumes.
                            A : No no, put the sun right behind the camera so that everything is in the light
                            Me : Are you SURE ? it will make evrything flat
                            A : Yes of course, we can't present a building with a façade in the shadow !
                            Me : Send a new view with everything lit
                            A : Hmm, everything is so flat, there is no punch to this image, it's dull, etc, etc.
                            Me : Yeah, maybe we should bring back those shadows then ?
                            A : Ok, but make them very faint, very light, a very, very light gray please
                            Me : I do what they want, send the image
                            A : It doesn't look very realistic
                            Me: REALLY ??
                            Originally posted by Syclone1 View Post
                            LOL yup, I get the same here...
                            Hahaha; almost died laughing, this is EXACTLY what I experience everyday, makes me want to either throw myself out of the window or the man/woman spilling this nonsense. All of my images have been through the idiot filter unfortunately. I can never present the work in a decent portfolio because the further it progresses and receives bullshit comments, the uglier it gets. I think out of the 100 projects I did I can show 5 that haven't changed.
                            A.

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                            • #15
                              Going back to your rendering Bobby... I noticed that the latest renderings that you posted are not as realistic as your past work(exteriors)....This one included!
                              maybe is the time frame of the projects but they don't look like your renderings.

                              Fernando
                              show me the money!!

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