Rumors harm investors and shareholders. So don’t expect any (official) rumors until released. But based on past experience, I won’t hold my breath for anything earth shattering.
The PM has gone, the viewport team in Singapore went a while back.
I’m not expecting much from 2018 - some MCG development, Arnold interface (but no Arnold) - possibly the worst possible release to pitch this kind of thing.
I’m renewed up until next year anyway, after that I’ll see.
There’s no way on earth I’m going to hand over the keys to a perpetual license. It would be insane. More a case of whether maintenance sub + 5/10/20% cumulatively is worth it. By the past couple of years, I’d say it’s barely worth it now.
Terrible news. Will a subscription plan allow using multiple versions of Max(i.e. different years releases)? At least Adobe’s subscription fees seemed more reasonable.
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It’s a VERY short road to writing the necessary asset convertor to ANY software … I’d do it myself and probably make some fast money on it when the time is right 
I’d buy such a converter!
By the way, relevant to this discussion is a comment posted on the ADSK forum by Kris:
Also, when 2018 comes out, I strongly suggest everyone read the Terms before installing. I wouldn’t put it past AD to stick in “by installing this software, you agree to have your permanent license terminated at our discretion, upon the termination of the license/maintenance model”. Since few read those, it would be just the right kind of dirty trick to do.
So keep your eyes open, folks because anything goes with ADSK. Don’t put a blind trust on them to care for your interest, read any terms from now on VERY carefully before you download or install.
I guess they want to go the same path as Adobe did. Sadly they have a lot more competition than Adobe. I’m interested what will happen next.
I’m currently using Sketchup for construction documents with layout and I replaced Autocad & Revit but this workflow is because I already was using SU to design my projects so I wanted to eliminate extra steps… I have perpetual not that perpetual as it looks like license of Autocad, revit, max…if this keep getting worst I would have to go to Vray for Sketchup or jumping to Cinema4d and pray that Autodesk don’t get it in the future. I don’t mind paying a little more for what I have but bullying users to move is not acceptable. Few months ago I moved to Affinity and even I don’t know how use it well I feel free with one less chain in my leg and I also download Davinci Resolve(free) for video editing.
I don’t know. I have been using Photoshop for 20 years and it never crashed. I didn’t think it cold crash until CC. Now, I get a couple crashes a week. However, for $20 bucks a month, I can deal. Paying $190 a month, the software should never crash, IMO.
A few years ago I did cancel my 3dsmax maintenance plan. Eventually I regretted it as I was unable to successfully aquire the necessary skills in an alternative program (Modo). So this time around I’m going to take it easy and not jump until I’ve actually got an alternative successfully up & running. I am sick & tired of AD not delivering anything of value to me despite the fees. It would be a good start I’d they stopped immediately making annual new releases and instead just made regular improvements and fixes to a stable release. Anyhow I do not like the sound of being forced onto subscription and losing the perpetual. AD are terrible.
I´m not a lawyer but as far as know we once bought the software. I wonder, if we drop out of the subscription model and don´t go with the rental model, we can still still use the last version we paid for ? The “good” part about Autodesk is the exremly slow development. One could easily use an old max version without missing to much. While I do have 2017 installed we´re still using 2014 in production. We probabely could use it for another 3-4 years. So if we update to 2018 this year (presuming it´s not completly messed up once again) then we stop our subscription we could save the subscription and rental costs for several years. After that maybe in 5 or 6 years when we want to update again. We just get additional licenses trough the standard rental model, but keep our old licences as they are. At that point all the people who switched to rental from the subscription model probabely pay the same price as a new customer. Like this we could save a lot of money and in the end still have our old licenses intact. I wonder if this would be possible.
This is exactly what I think we should all do, and what I think we’ll be doing - provided there are no obvious reasons not too! Cut them loose, live a little, and just get back on subs as ans when needed. We own the software so they cant stop us using that, until possibly you get a new subs lic, don’t know.
I can’t understand how can we pay and continue to pay for shit… come on, 3ds max 2017 ?? You paid for something you don’t really have ! That is called theft no ? How many people said that they could live without upgrading… How many people works with old versions today ?
This is a fact. AD sucks and I hope they will end to understand it
As a freelance I obviously agree with most of the posts above but, to me, the main problem will be medium/long time frame (after 5 years or more) …it’s true that for most of us probably even an old max version will be good enough but after some years, new release of other plugins will not be compatible anymore with very old max releases.
Even more, the most unbelievable thing is that all kinds of “subscription only” models in the sw field are in some way similar to a sort of “ransomware” …I mean “do you want to access your own files and data, then give us the money first”.
Is anyone able to explain to me the differences between the above business models?
Does anyone know if it´s possible to switch 3ds Max / Vray Licence to Blender, if so how much is it?
I too think Adsk is making a bad decisson here. Adsk FIRST 
is not going to work with all these good competitors out here.
Best
Long time user 3ds max
Totally agree with that !!
Very interesting too
There’s no need to switch anything, you already have the render node license that is needed. A bit further down the road you might need a license for the App SDK as well, but we generally provide this for free.
Best regards,
Vlado
Ok maybe I am not getting you, but how can I do this. I don´t have any blender downloads in my download section…!?
best
Roger
It would be best to email our support guys at support@chaosgroup.com - they will help you with that.
Best regards,
Vlado
Oh I see Vray for blender is open source…cool!