The biggest bummer is, that you now have to pay for rendnodes.
Corona WS + 5 Rendernodes was 349,- . Now it is Corona Solo (322,80 ) plus 538,80 for the rendernodes. Thats an increase from 349,- to 861,60! Or did I missed something. ( I am not talking about the granted offer for longerterm user).
As Corona and Vray is one family, I really hoped, that AT LEAST, when I have to pay for rendernodes now, the rendernodes are usable for corona AND vray !!!
And as Benny said, do we get any bundles vray/corona, as with the premium versions, we have to pay twice for some products ?
Or does the corona Chaos Scans gives access to the vray Chaos Scans too?
Another price increase. This is all going in the wrong direction. Render nodes to be bought separately, so that there is an impression that the price has not changed. It feels like Chaos Corona, not good old Corona…
Hmm, I can understand a price jump because of the general way of things these days, plus Chaos Cosmos included. But a 44% increase is quite alot (From 289,99EUR to 418,80EUR)
And this is only if I keep paying every year, or else we’re talking an increase that’s just wild(Solo + rendernode pricing)
I think an open dialogue and breakdown/reasoning behind this decision would be welcomed. Seems like we’re getting the short end of the stick right now.
Corona will be dropped within two years by Chaosgroup if you ask me. I’ve seen these things before with great tools being bought by bigger company’s.
(Canoma, softimage…)
The sheer fact that Corona isn’t even mentioned on the landing page of chaos.com is a proof of that to me.
I will finish a commercial project that I am working on right now within the last discounted month of Corona Premium and will have to look for alternatives in the meantime.
I will abandon this sinking ship and my main reason is the drop of the rendernodes in the main license.
If Chaosgroup left the nodes in I could have had a choice for solo and would understand, and could also live with, the price increase.
But now my cute little renderfarm of three computers turn out to be useless…
For clarity on the Render Nodes, nothing has changed here - extra render nodes were dropped with the release of Corona 8, not with Corona 9, so it’s been this way since April. That is, unless you were an existing user before Corona 8 in which case you got to keep whatever render nodes you used to have, and you still get to keep those with Corona 9 too so long as your Premium subscription remains renewed.
On Chaos Scans, a Chaos Scans license is a Chaos Scans license and not tied to a particular render engine - this means if you own a Scans license from V-Ray Premium, it will work with Corona, and if you own a Scans license from Corona Premium, it will work with V-Ray. Same with Phoenix, and Player
No plans for Corona to be dropped - bear in mind that it’s now been 5 years since we joined forces with Chaos Group. Companies that buy-in-order-to-discontinue do not invest 5 years of money into a product, nor allow that product to keep developing at the rate we’ve been developing
There are other reasons why the websites aren’t merged, it’s something we consider doing now and then but it’s not been the right time so far, and certain problems with doing that (for our users) have not been resolved, and so we’ve opted to keep the sites separate for now. Of course if the websites DID merge, people would then use this as a sign that Chaos is going to drop Corona
And on the reasoning for the new prices, the prices of all products was carefully selected based on the challenges faced by businesses in the current economic climate.
Thats good to know. However, a corona/vray bundle would be nice, as I think, there people like me, who own and use both.
Also, as I wrote above, a unified CHAOS RENDERNODE would be good, but I know, you would make less money
Well, Corona Render Nodes are less expensive than V-Ray ones, so a combined one wouldn’t be about us making less money, it would be about our users paying more money
Ok, sorry for not noticing I am a Corona user since Alpha but I had some payment issues in the last few months so I had to subscribe again and this could be the main reason for the absence of the nodes… I don’t render everyday
And I surely don’t want to throw with mud about the pricing, cause I still think Corona renderer is the best I can get and you managed to make fast improvements with every version.
But in these days of crisis I already stopped my subscription of Adobe and switched to Resolve and Affinity…
I will give premium a spin first and consider going to solo. One question though: how to get access to Chaos Scans?
For Scans, the license is included, and there’s no separate installation. To access it just add a Scanned Material (C4D) or a CoronaScannedMtl (Max), head to the Scans web page (there’s a link in the material), download the vrscan you want, and load that into the material. Tutorial coming soon too, should be sometime this week. Let us know if you have any other questions before we get that intro tutorial out
If my current license is an old Fair SAAS license, what tier is that equivalent to in the new licensing? Do i need to contact support to access Phoenix etc?
Everyone is moved over to Premium to begin with, so right now everyone has everything. Only if they opt to swap to Solo will they lose access to Phoenix, Scans, and Player. If you were an old FairSaaS user, and kept your subscription active since then (through Corona 8 etc), then you also still have your render nodes. You’ll have at least 30 days to decide if Premium is the right fit for you before any charge at the new pricing appears, so plenty of time to try out the new goodies! As a note, to keep the FairSaaS render nodes, you would have to continue with your Premium subscription specifically. Hope that helps!
“All existing subscriptions (monthly and yearly) continue without any changes
If you have an active Corona subscription (or start one before the release of Corona then we will not unilaterally change it — so nothing will change for you, unless you explicitly ask us to make a change. Your subscription will continue with the same conditions for as long as you keep it active, and will even include the new additions such as Chaos Scatter, Chaos Cosmos, etc.”
“Existing subscriptions Pricing, terms, bundled render nodes stay the same”
I suppose all this is no longer true?
Tom I also have an old FAIRSAAS, (annual, expiring February 7, 2023) according to the information received if my subscription is not interrupted (renewed), I will keep my prices (217,49 + tax, 234,24 Eur, 1ws + 3 nodes)
Can you please tell me if my plan and pricing is going to change and when?
My pricing and plan will not change unless I explicitly ask you to make a change?
I will have at least 30 days to explicitly “ask” you to make a change and then sit and watch my annual fee go Boom?
Thanks for all the info (but not for the fish).
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Yes, the information was plans were staying the same with the launch of Corona 8, describing what was happening then. But as you quoted, we couldn’t predict what the future would hold, and nobody could have predicted how 2022 worked out.
Can you please tell me if my plan and pricing is going to change and when?
Yes, everyone’s plan has already changed to Premium, with access to Phoenix, Scans, and Player. When your pricing will change will depend on several things, but there is at least 30 days before prices change, so e.g. if you are monthly then your next renewal will be at the same price as before, even though you already have all the benefits of Premium, then the renewal after that at the new pricing. When this price changes was detailed in an email sent to all customers, with the details specific to their situation.
My pricing and plan will not change unless I explicitly ask you to make a change?
No, everyone’s plan has already changed, and everyone’s pricing will change to one of the new Solo/Premium/Monthly/Annual prices as shown on the website.
I will have at least 30 days to explicitly “ask” you to make a change and then sit and watch my annual fee go Boom?
No, as noted, pricing will change. You have that time to decide, for example, that Solo is all you need and you can get in touch to ask us to move you from Premium to Solo so that when the next charge comes in at the new pricing, it will be for the Solo tier. Or you can not ask us to change things, and you will stay on Premium and then be renewed at the Premium pricing (when that kicks in, is detailed in the email sent to you).
PS I will also add the other info, which has already been mentioned, that free render nodes from FairSaaS (if you have them) are still maintained, so long as your Premium subscription continues uninterrupted.
It’s sad to be forced to pay an extreme extra amount without any warning (30 days is worthless compared to the pricehike).
I can’t remember any other situation where I have felt so screwed over as now - and that’s comming from the Corona team - who had a reputation of beeing userfriendly and fair.
It’s not only Chaos who’s having a hard time now - it’s also their users.
I don’t like this at all, and find it totally unacceptable.
Default moving everyone to premium plan is one thing, world-wide economic situation is another thing where inflation is spiraling.
While I do understand that people are upset about the price hike, Corona team runs a company not a foundation and this means it needs to be profitable and also has to struggle with higher running costs such as rents, salaries etc. You should probably take this into consideration.
then we will not unilaterally change it — so nothing will change for you, unless you explicitly ask us to make a change. Your subscription will continue with the same conditions for as long as you keep it active, and will even include the new additions such as Chaos Scatter, Chaos Cosmos, etc.”