# Enscape conflict with Rhino.inside **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** revit2021, rhinoinsiderevit, enscape-rhino, rhino7\ **Created:** [October 21, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803 "2021-10-21T11:55:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![huss191998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/97f17d/32.png) [@huss191998](https://forums.chaos.com/u/huss191998)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/1 "2021-10-21T11:55:42Z")
I’m sure you aware of Rhino.inside revit, each time loading Rhino.inside revit I get errors because of Enscape and I have to uninstall it during working with rhino.inside revit :revit: I Hope you could fix this issue ---
**Author:** ![Demian\_Gutberlet](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/demian_gutberlet/32/5_2.png) [@Demian\_Gutberlet](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Demian_Gutberlet)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/2 "2021-10-22T11:37:25Z")
I’m sorry to hear about that - Since we’re currently completely unaware of your machine specs and so on it would be great if you could kindly send in a Feedback report as detailed [here](https://enscape3d.com/community/blog/knowledgebase/using-the-feedback-button/). This will transfer log files and machine information to us so that we can directly troubleshoot the cause behind this issue as quickly as possible. Thank you very much in advance! ---
**Author:** ![Xiaoyu\_Wang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xiaoyu\_Wang](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Xiaoyu_Wang)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 4:29am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/3 "2021-11-01T04:29:10Z")
Hi There, It seems we got the same issue here too. When our users try to open Rhino inside from Revit, there is an error window pop up says “unable to load Enscape.Rhino7.Plugin.dll Plug-in : initialization failed”, details can be found in the attached picture. ![Error.PNG](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/original/3X/a/b/ab4a2b1d8c9598192992cb410dde02860a9453e2.png) ---
**Author:** ![noahmkelly](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/noahmkelly/32/208921_2.png) [@noahmkelly](https://forums.chaos.com/u/noahmkelly)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/4 "2021-11-15T17:56:31Z")
We have the same issue on all our machines ---
**Author:** ![Ben\_Peake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Ben\_Peake](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Ben_Peake)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/5 "2021-11-16T14:05:34Z")
We also have this issue in my company. Seems to be only occurring with 3.1 versions of enscape. Our short term resolution to this has been downgrading Enscape version back to 3.0.2. ---
**Author:** ![Demian\_Gutberlet](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/demian_gutberlet/32/5_2.png) [@Demian\_Gutberlet](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Demian_Gutberlet)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/6 "2021-11-22T09:17:05Z")
@Xiaoyu_Wang , @Ben_Peake , and @noahmkelly , please also try to install our [latest release](https://enscape3d.com/download/) for all users through [our advanced installation steps](https://enscape3d.com/community/blog/knowledgebase/getstarted/#advanced), and make sure to fully uninstall any version of Enscape installed prior be it a preview or release version. Let me know if that does not do the trick, please! ---
**Author:** ![wang\_xiaoyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c6cbf5/32.png) [@wang\_xiaoyu](https://forums.chaos.com/u/wang_xiaoyu)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/7 "2022-01-10T04:53:53Z")
Hi Demian, This issue still happens under Enscape 3.2.0+65063. Can you please help to check with your team if there is any further fix or workaround ? As this issue brings further impact now - when we start Rhino Inside from Revit, the Rhino window will get crashed. Below are the details about our environment : Windows 10 20H2 Rhino 7.11 Enscape 3.2.0+65063 Revit 2019 / 2021 Dell 5820 Tower with : Intel Xeon Processor W-2245 Nvidia Quadro RTX 4000 8GB. Attachments are the logs from %tmp%\Enscape\logs [Logs.zip](https://forums.chaos.com/uploads/short-url/oKZRKNIXTUhCe3bHWyPqLs08YZA.zip) (78 KB) ---
**Author:** ![wang\_xiaoyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c6cbf5/32.png) [@wang\_xiaoyu](https://forums.chaos.com/u/wang_xiaoyu)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/8 "2022-03-21T08:00:27Z")
Hi Demian, Is there any progress on this issue ? Thank you ---
**Author:** ![Demian\_Gutberlet](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/demian_gutberlet/32/5_2.png) [@Demian\_Gutberlet](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Demian_Gutberlet)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/9 "2022-03-22T11:22:21Z")
Please kindly also manually **uninstall any version of Enscape** on your machine and then through the latest installer itself can you also try installing Enscape only for Rhino, does that make any difference: ![pasted-from-clipboard.png](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/original/3X/1/e/1ef38170e5607c60f5fa4b7e3a67393fef7a027e.png) Please also, if available, send us the following Enscape generated logs themselves: **C:\Users%USERNAME%\AppData\Roaming\Enscape\Data\Logs** My apologies for the delayed response, I am looking forward to any further posts from you so that we can troubleshoot the cause behind this as quickly as possible. Meanwhile, does temporarily [installing Enscape 3.0.x](https://enscape3d.com/version-history/) make a difference whatsoever, if trying the above did not help? ---
**Author:** ![wang\_xiaoyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c6cbf5/32.png) [@wang\_xiaoyu](https://forums.chaos.com/u/wang_xiaoyu)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/10 "2022-06-06T07:56:57Z")
Hi Demian, Sorry for my late reply, our City was locked down due to the COVID-19. I have tried the latest version of Enscape 3.3.1+75071, the issue still here. A new workstation Dell T5820 with new OS Windows 10 20H2. Revit 2021.1.5 Enscape 3.3.1+75071 ![pasted-from-clipboard.png](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/original/3X/e/b/eb98eb5937075f43461af0b7b50ce518b884d786.png) Please kindly advise on this issue. Thank you ---
**Author:** ![Demian\_Gutberlet](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/demian_gutberlet/32/5_2.png) [@Demian\_Gutberlet](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Demian_Gutberlet)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/11 "2022-06-13T12:15:26Z")
Thanks for getting back to me and my apologies for the delayed reply, as well as any confusion caused. I’m afraid, I have to update you that at least currently with our latest release and forward we do _not officially_ support the use of Rhino Inside Revit and recommend using the CAD programs on their own. I’ll still file and forward your voice alongside the feedback of others in this thread to product management for further discussion. If there’ll be any updates in the future eventually regarding this matter, I’ll let you know. ---
**Author:** ![david.baldacchino\_hok.com](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/david.baldacchino_hok.com/32/235320_2.png) [@david.baldacchino\_hok.com](https://forums.chaos.com/u/david.baldacchino_hok.com)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/12 "2022-07-21T20:31:06Z")
Wow Demian, that is really the wrong answer. We are running into this exact issue and from the messages above, I see zero effort from Enscape to even try and understand the problem. What do you mean “we do _not officially_ support the use of Rhino Inside Revit”? Who are you to determine what other software we use? Do you realize that _your_ solution is conflicting with the use of another software? Enscape is conflicting with Rhino.Inside when Enscape is installed and the user has no interest in even using it. How can you just dismiss this as “we don’t support it”? So if I get a similar answer from McNeel and they tell us they don’t support Enscape, should we just terminate our contract and cancel all our licenses with Enscape since perhaps Rhino.Inside is more important to us and we have other real-time rendering options at our disposal? This problem is most probably being caused because Rhino will run inside the Revit session and your tool (which we install for Rhino, Revit and Sketchup) is potentially trying to load twice within the same thread (one for Revit and one for Rhino). I’m kind of taken aback that you’d dismiss this issue and even state you have no future plans to fix it moving forward. ---
**Author:** ![adalli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@adalli](https://forums.chaos.com/u/adalli)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/13 "2022-10-27T16:04:35Z")
Hi Demian, why did you delete my post? I work for a large firm and we are still unable to use Rhino-inside Revit alongside Enscape. Is it still the stance of Enscape that you will not be trying to resolve this compatibility issue? We will be forced to switch to a competitor if that is the case. Thanks, -Adalli ---
**Author:** ![Demian\_Gutberlet](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/demian_gutberlet/32/5_2.png) [@Demian\_Gutberlet](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Demian_Gutberlet)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/enscape-conflict-with-rhino-inside/173803/14 "2022-10-27T16:49:35Z")
@adalli , kindly check out my dedicated reply to you [here](https://forum.enscape3d.com/index.php?thread/20250-enscape-public-voting-portal-how-to-forward-upvote-feature-asset-requests-direct/&postID=78816#post78816). Thank you.