# foam and splash only rendering when render as geometry is on

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**Category:** Issues\
**Created:** [January 6, 2025, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/foam-and-splash-only-rendering-when-render-as-geometry-is-on/121172 "2025-01-06T10:25:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![newborn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@newborn](https://forums.chaos.com/u/newborn)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/foam-and-splash-only-rendering-when-render-as-geometry-is-on/121172/1 "2025-01-06T10:25:09Z")

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hi

here is the file i am working on

> **[Dropbox](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/o2iijwds14rddzgu1hhiv/lake.rar?rlkey=8xn2hvivod2zijumjf8un2geo&st=gki41uhn&dl=0)**

its a max 2022 file and vray 7 used. this scene was originally done in feet inches but i converted it to metres and the objects ar elao correctly scaled.  
i am able to see my phoenix foam and splash particles in preview but when i render them i see nothing. i have tried bubbles , splashes cellular point but nothing is working.  
please see the scene and see whats wrong. this is my first big scene of a lake. till now everything was working fine on small water sims.  
can someone help me herte?  
also a note when i change the render to corona everything works fine automatically without changing any phoenix settings

thanks

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**Author:** ![zdravko\_pavlov1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/zdravko_pavlov1/32/19994_2.png) [@zdravko\_pavlov1](https://forums.chaos.com/u/zdravko_pavlov1)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/foam-and-splash-only-rendering-when-render-as-geometry-is-on/121172/2 "2025-01-06T10:36:18Z")

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Hello, thanks for sending a link to the scene. I’ll look into it.

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**Author:** ![zdravko\_pavlov1](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/zdravko_pavlov1/32/19994_2.png) [@zdravko\_pavlov1](https://forums.chaos.com/u/zdravko_pavlov1)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/foam-and-splash-only-rendering-when-render-as-geometry-is-on/121172/3 "2025-01-06T10:58:19Z")

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In the Environment and Effects dialog, there’s a PhoenixFD atmospheric effect. It needs to be active to render the particle shaders.

 ![9096c86facc7c3cea57cc493946fadc7.png](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/original/3X/d/0/d0501ce251f9fd3c53a09cb48540bcfc2ecca824.png)

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**Author:** ![newborn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@newborn](https://forums.chaos.com/u/newborn)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/foam-and-splash-only-rendering-when-render-as-geometry-is-on/121172/4 "2025-01-06T15:18:45Z")

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> [@zdravko\_pavlov1](#):
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> In the Environment and Effects dialog, there’s a PhoenixFD atmospheric effect. It needs to be active to render the particle shaders.

Thanks man. Problem solved