# HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gallery\ **Created:** [August 26, 2008, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312 "2008-08-26T05:55:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![david\_87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@david\_87](https://forums.chaos.com/u/david_87)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/1 "2008-08-26T05:55:30Z")
HI ALL!, I want to make my shadows darker and stronger, maintaining the same ligh parameters, help anyone? render is not mine. just using it ![](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/original/3X/b/7/b798c418085c988055f98641f0d835132b2464aa.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ckosio\_cg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@ckosio\_cg](https://forums.chaos.com/u/ckosio_cg)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/2 "2008-08-26T06:00:25Z")
Re: HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? just use one of the .visopt at download sections..render it. then study why is that.then read the manual. you can download it too at download section. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![david\_87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@david\_87](https://forums.chaos.com/u/david_87)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/3 "2008-08-26T06:18:52Z")
Re: HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? any better ideas? i cant change the light parameters cuz i already have the ones i like but my shadows are too soft, and i want them darker ---
**Author:** ![nomeradona\_cg](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/nomeradona_cg/32/23428_2.png) [@nomeradona\_cg](https://forums.chaos.com/u/nomeradona_cg)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/4 "2008-08-26T06:23:47Z")
Re: HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? make the radius of light smaller to have sharper shadow. ---
**Author:** ![david\_87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@david\_87](https://forums.chaos.com/u/david_87)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/5 "2008-08-26T06:35:03Z")
Re: HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? does it have to do with shadow subdivs, shadow bias? increase, decrease? ---
**Author:** ![dcauldwell\_cg](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/dcauldwell_cg/32/48271_2.png) [@dcauldwell\_cg](https://forums.chaos.com/u/dcauldwell_cg)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/6 "2008-08-26T07:26:47Z")
Re: HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? For GI illumination, the shadows in the example you show, already looks quite dark. Have you got an example of what you are looking to achieve? ---
**Author:** ![david\_87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@david\_87](https://forums.chaos.com/u/david_87)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/7 "2008-08-26T07:29:11Z")
Re: HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? i wanna cast a shadow like these, very dark ![](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/original/4X/c/6/f/c6f0c860bf367e277d61685d1156be54f3a55557.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![david\_87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@david\_87](https://forums.chaos.com/u/david_87)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/8 "2008-08-26T07:32:22Z")
Re: HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? here’s an example of both dark and not so dark shadow, i wanna achieve the shadow casted on the center, that darkness, around the circle the shadow is very soft ---
**Author:** ![Free\_Agent\_cg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/13edae/32.png) [@Free\_Agent\_cg](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Free_Agent_cg)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/9 "2008-08-26T08:13:22Z")
Re: HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? in photoshop go to image \> adjustment \> exposure and play with the offset slider ---
**Author:** ![dcauldwell\_cg](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/dcauldwell_cg/32/48271_2.png) [@dcauldwell\_cg](https://forums.chaos.com/u/dcauldwell_cg)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/10 "2008-08-26T08:37:32Z")
Re: HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? Now we can see what you want, you are showing a studio set-up, so you need to turn off the ‘default lights’ (the sun) and experiment with one omni light, or a small rectangular light, possibly with GI turned off. Have a look at Nomeradona’s work, as he does a lot of ‘studio’ set-ups. David ---
**Author:** ![andeciuala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@andeciuala](https://forums.chaos.com/u/andeciuala)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/11 "2008-08-26T12:45:08Z")
Re: HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? hi man, the first one is the oclusion map of 3d studio max, made with the map dirty of vray, we dont have this kind of material on vray 4 sketchup. But you can make shadow darker, decreasing the number of prepass of light cache on secondary engine, and the multiply. You can also play with the contrast on GI, just try it, lower the number and get mor contrast ok? i hoppe this can help. ---
**Author:** ![howardhong\_cg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e480ec/32.png) [@howardhong\_cg](https://forums.chaos.com/u/howardhong_cg)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/12 "2008-08-26T13:23:20Z")
Re: HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? You mean this kind of shadow? ![](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/original/4X/1/f/3/1f32518e8f630476774b84b0fded2295b51d9f7f.jpeg) its all matter of “radius” you can find 2 kinds of “radius” 1st.---environment---photon radius 2nd.---in the omni light tab-- reduce the radius of omni light shadow. enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![david\_87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@david\_87](https://forums.chaos.com/u/david_87)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/help-with-darker-shadows/32312/13 "2008-08-26T17:38:58Z")
Re: HELP WITH DARKER SHADOWS? hey andeciuala, man, it worked! thank u so much, i was using, primary: irradiance, and secondary: quasi monte carlo, all i had to do was decrease the multilplier from irradiance from 1 to 0.3 and it made my shadow darker without changing any GI , i was using enviromental light, not omnis or rectangulars. thanks man!