# How to get better liquid renderings?

**URL:** <https://forums.chaos.com/t/how-to-get-better-liquid-renderings/42411>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [August 20, 2012, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/how-to-get-better-liquid-renderings/42411 "2012-08-20T06:46:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![LarsSonparsson](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/larssonparsson/32/35733_2.png) [@LarsSonparsson](https://forums.chaos.com/u/LarsSonparsson)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/how-to-get-better-liquid-renderings/42411/1 "2012-08-20T06:46:22Z")

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Hi

I have two week test period for phoenix. From my experience about year ago, I can get good results with smoke, but liquids are still problematic.  
Simulations works just fine → stable solutions with ok speed. I just don’t know what to do to get rid of the artifacts. See the example video.

[https://vimeo.com/47847172](https://vimeo.com/47847172)  
password: Phoenix

There is all kind of wiggle and unexpected behavior going on. Not bad, but not usable in productions.

Any ideas how to make it better?

Max scene attached:  
[phoenix\_liquid.zip](https://forums.chaos.com/uploads/short-url/fxgtxGR9t79JH6VzQcaayaloXoK.zip) (35.7 KB)

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**Author:** ![Ivaylo\_Katev](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/ivaylo_katev/32/3695_2.png) [@Ivaylo\_Katev](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Ivaylo_Katev)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/how-to-get-better-liquid-renderings/42411/2 "2012-08-20T09:13:47Z")

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use strong surface mode and zero sharpness, this is the best option for slime liquids.

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**Author:** ![LarsSonparsson](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/larssonparsson/32/35733_2.png) [@LarsSonparsson](https://forums.chaos.com/u/LarsSonparsson)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/how-to-get-better-liquid-renderings/42411/3 "2012-08-20T10:29:55Z")

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What about the surface level? Should I keep it in the default 0.5 value?

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**Author:** ![Ivaylo\_Katev](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/ivaylo_katev/32/3695_2.png) [@Ivaylo\_Katev](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Ivaylo_Katev)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/how-to-get-better-liquid-renderings/42411/4 "2012-08-20T10:47:31Z")

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yes, it have to be changed in very few cases.