# Instanciate problem

**URL:** <https://forums.chaos.com/t/instanciate-problem/551>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [May 28, 2003, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/instanciate-problem/551 "2003-05-28T00:35:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![R2J2](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/r2j2/32/61464_2.png) [@R2J2](https://forums.chaos.com/u/R2J2)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2003, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/instanciate-problem/551/1 "2003-05-28T00:35:14Z")

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my scene had a large number of Instances, I read that there is a time saver if you use instanciate instead of replicate, but when I use instanciate VRay uses all the avaliable ram and then crashes after a coupple of hours (over network). ☹

System:  
Max5.1  
VRay Advanced 1.09 (Haven’t updated to the latest one yet)  
Windows XP

any thoughts or comments?  
Cheers \_Jay

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**Author:** ![winberg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/278dde/32.png) [@winberg](https://forums.chaos.com/u/winberg)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/instanciate-problem/551/2 "2003-05-28T02:50:35Z")

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Click on the “instanciate” in the render settings…you find it in the “system” rollout..

-Tom

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**Author:** ![R2J2](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/r2j2/32/61464_2.png) [@R2J2](https://forums.chaos.com/u/R2J2)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2003, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/instanciate-problem/551/3 "2003-05-28T04:35:53Z")

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thats what I do and it’s giving me problems 😢

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**Author:** ![vlado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/779978/32.png) [@vlado](https://forums.chaos.com/u/vlado)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2003, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/instanciate-problem/551/4 "2003-05-28T13:33:21Z")

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There was a bug where VRay would not free all data associated with instances from one frame to the next… this should be fixed in the latest 1.09.03x builds, but I’d advise you to wait for the next one before upgrading 🙂

Best regards,  
Vlado

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**Author:** ![R2J2](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/r2j2/32/61464_2.png) [@R2J2](https://forums.chaos.com/u/R2J2)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2003, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/instanciate-problem/551/5 "2003-05-28T23:13:11Z")

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thanks for the post Vlado, yeah it would render one frame fine and crash on the next.

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**Author:** ![zerofractal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a88e4f/32.png) [@zerofractal](https://forums.chaos.com/u/zerofractal)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/instanciate-problem/551/6 "2003-05-30T14:35:15Z")

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Vlado, is this new build inprooved anything on mirrored instances?

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**Author:** ![RErender](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/rerender/32/42964_2.png) [@RErender](https://forums.chaos.com/u/RErender)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/instanciate-problem/551/7 "2003-05-30T15:24:28Z")

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I doubt it since that is a max issue, Use the mirror modifier, it does not have the bug.

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**Author:** ![zerofractal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a88e4f/32.png) [@zerofractal](https://forums.chaos.com/u/zerofractal)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/instanciate-problem/551/8 "2003-05-30T15:43:22Z")

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is it a max issue that mirrored instances render with no GI when using the instantiate oprion in Vray?