leasing or not, your opinions????

As far as I remember the only systems that has BSOD are Dell, HP and box haha =D, Funny how well tested they are =D

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I get plenty of them on Dell machines…

edit: is everyone using geforce cards as opposed to quadros these days?

Quadro dont give us anny benefits on max/maya as far as I remember…

interesting. Was about to purchase a quadro for my machine @ home. Maybe it’ll be nice to get some better value for money with a geforce. I was under the impression that Quadros can handle longer periods of stress better than a geforce but if I’m getting BSOD at work with quadros then I dont care for that claim :stuck_out_tongue:

Cheers!

The idea of quadros handling longer periods of stress is a joke… Just think of it when kids play gforce they jank them 24/7 for years, where as Quadros in CGI is used how much, up to 20%? :slight_smile: And they slower in viewport and in GPU rendering anyway.

I have had quadros and geforces, and the geforces were always better IMO…
My Polywell has been throwing BSOD lately and it turned out to be the power supply.
I fixed it myself, but maybe I got lucky (lots of cables/wires!)

HAHA funny shirt

So, did you have to research a lot of components and buy from a bunch of different resellers?
So all 5 built in one day and hardware was only 4000 total, or 4000 each machine?

Thanks

That is similar to me, so building one is looking more and more appealing…thanks for input

Building your own is pretty straight forward, although daunting the first time.
1. Buy a quality case, that is quiet - these are great cases. Fractal Design Gaming & PC Hardware | Fractal Design
2. Decide which CPU you want (i7 is a good choice and available in 6-core now)
3. Get a motherboard suitable for the chosen CPU (I like Gigabyte, but others are just as good)
4. Get a cooler for the CPU
5. Buy a good power supply (scrimping here will not doubt result in BSOD and untold misery) Corsair make excellent ones.
6. Buy as much RAM as you can, normally in dual or triple kits, depending on MB spec. It is still dirt cheap so buy loads.
7. Stick in a graphics card, don’t bother with quadros or the like, unless you’re heavily into CAD apps, but even then it’s probably not worth it.
8. Stick in one or more Hard Disks (depending on whether you are using RAID or not) and a CD/DVD reader/writer.
9. All the above components fit into easily recognised corresponding slots/cables on the mother board, so if you’ve ever played with LEGO or done a jigsaw you are qualified to stick the bits in…carefully :slight_smile:
10 Turn it in on (fingers cross it POSTS - if not check you seated the RAM properly) and then install Windows. Win7 is a breeze to install compared to previous versions.
First one should take you a very enjoyable half a day.

@Simon

Thanks for the checklist and info, it is a big help…I am comfortable adding drives/cards/etc. even power supplies (now) but have always been intimidated to try it from scratch!
So far, I am leaning more and more toward trying my own build, as the pros for leasing are falling far behind ATM.
As far as RAM is concerned, does ECC/non-ECC matter that much? I’ve never really gotten a straight answer on this…

Thanks again to everyone for all the helpful comments!

Yes ECC matter. They do help they do protect ur files. But at the end u can find a way to not have to use them and still be fine.

As to case - DO noy buy any “Silent” crap cases. At the end u will have to take off ur side and blow fan 100% on cpu to just coll it down ! Get xigmatec elysium and stick as many fans as u want at 140/120mm + 1k RPM. U wont hear a thing and it will be coll(I dunno how is it coll or cool lol)

ECC and NON ECC OC that same. It’s the size of bank and price thats different. I had ECC-REG in past still has them. B4 u buy ram make sure ur mother board (EVGA - since they cover in warranty Overclocking etc etc) can use ECC + CPU. i7 cant use ECC as far as I remember.

B4 u start buying pick ur motherboard, and then check vendor certified list of hardware that u can use with this motherboard…

Thanks, bye.

ECC is mainly used on SERVERS. I don’t think the extra cost for ECC is worth it for a workstation as I don’t see it making that much difference on a workstation.
As for the “silent” cases. They all start out like that, but run it for couple of months and it will sound just like any other case, due to dust buildup on the fans due to static etc.
You’ll have to take apart the fans and wash it nicely every 2 or 3 months to keep that supposedly “silent” feel or sound

If you want to keep things cool, sticking in more fans will make it more noisy. Maybe try liquid cooling

It wont if u run 120mm fans at 1k rpms. Under 18-20db u cant really hear the noise.

The problem with silent cases is that they have very bad airflow and very little fanse - I know I did had 2 of them in past. At the end u just end up taking all apart so that cpu can actually get some fresh air to coll down components…

ECC matters - all the corrupted save errors, crashes, etc etc dont happen as often on ECC reg as it does on non-ecc reg…

Most of my machines have been non-ECC. Some of my max scenes are 500mb. I usually save in increments. Last time I had save crashes was on Max 5 (when my files was much smaller)
But maybe I’ve just been lucky.

@DADAL and Morne,

Thanks guys, this is great! I was actually planning to go liquid cooling, as even my one’s fans eventually become noisy, and cleaning fans is a PITA.
LOL, I also have had to take side panel off case some times…
I have a cosmos case now that I really like…http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=2700
I was thinking of getting another, but they do seem pricey and i’m not sure if they can take liquid cooling system…
I think I will go for non-ECC since this won’t be a server…I also save incrementally.

Thanks again

I had this excat same case! What a piece of wrrrrrrrrrrr… I threw it out of the second floor window at the end =D

In any case GL on building ur epic rig, dont rush it !

@ DADAL,

LOL, that must have been quite fun! What was wrong with it for you? Noise? Maybe my wimpy system doesn’t bring out the case’s problems?!

I have about 2 weeks to plot something up, thanks again!