http://area.autodesk.com/index.php/blogs\_ken/blog\_detail/3ds\_max\_design\_and\_3ds\_max\_2009\_announced/
http://pressreleases.autodesk.com/index.php?s=press\_releases&item=383<%2Ftd>
This is a very bad joke… right ??
“3ds Max Design 2009 includes 100% of the features in 3ds Max 2009 - except for the SDK”
Cant be too bad then.
Still sounds fucking horrendous though. Found the ‘new, big’ changes before and theyre fucking atrocious, contender for worst max update ever.
now the updates and fixes is coming like a newest version…
Gotta keep the revenue coming in to satiate the investors and make the board and upper management look good irregardless of the use of the software being released. Who cares about the users as long as they must buy the upgrade!
this marketing operations don’t surprise me a lot, but..what i can’t understand is the sense of subscription.
if i don’t make a mistake, with subscription you have upgrades and maintenace for one year.
Now..after 6 month from the release of max2008 we have another release, but subscription?? how is it working now?? if we want to upgrade we must pay another fee or we can wait maintenance and upgrade for max2008 that never came out(in my opinion)
I hate the commercial software industry when developer like autodesk can make his own business with no respect for customer.
Every guarantee is waste-paper in that industry… everyone can change at any time… yes..also CG user can change software…but from my point of view it’s not a solution.
For the Release in March.. well, usually the release of Viz comes at spring, (when they are not forgetting a release!!) So, I geuss that’s the polite way to try to kill the doule work that gets done (viz/max), and work with one package only.. seems ok..
But yes, I think this should be done more than 5 monthe after the last release…
Subscription customers will receive this upgrade FREE of charge. That is the beauty of the subs programme - ANY updates/upgrades that are released during your subscription term will be sent to you for FREE.
welll its not free since you pay for the subscription…cheap maybey, but for the amunt of fixes and improvements it just might be a little pricy imho!
I skipped Max 9 without any problems. I might skip 2009 just the same… Well, unless they don’t ever post any point release patches for 2008. And if they don’t, its pretty underhanded on their part.
About 10 years ago, the rule of thumb was to skip every other release of autocad, because only 10, 12, and 14, etc. were any good (or maybe it was 9,11,13… can’t remember). Anyway, might need to adopt that philosophy now for Max.
excuse for OT but:
for 3dsmax2008 user:
It’s a good release or it’s full of bug?? What’s your opinion?
Besides, you pay for a subscription for a product.
This is BRANDED differently.
Who’s to assure that it won’t fall outside of the subscription?
Until I see ADesk officially stating it, I won’t believe it’s for subscribers of the “standard” 2008.
For me 2008 has held up well for arch viz use. There are a couple annoying spline bugs (refine vertices bug when working on user grid (remaining from Max 8 ), and offset spline bug new to 2008 ) but otherwise, it works great.
Most importantly perhaps, the networking features are working. We have Max and Vray networked licensed, and I could never get BB or DR to work in Max 9, so I had to stay in Max 8 until 2008 came out. They work perfectly in 2008, and I even got DR to work in BB.
Subscription Customers will get max 2009 for free if you have a subscription for max 2008 (That´s what my dealer told me today). I think you pay a subscription for a year and not for a release.
either way… when 2009 will be released in March there probabely won´t be another major
release in 2009. When i don´t take the mental ray and rendering related features into account
.. below the line there is absolutely nothing usefull in this release that would justify a major release. And well.. the subscription will get more expensive next year.. more money for more “nothing”.
It´s really a pain with autodesk. We just updated from max 8 to 2008.. and it took us quite some time until everything worked as expected (backburner, scripts, plugins). Now that finally
everthing works more or less… we get max 2009.
In max 2008 there are still a lot of bugs.. and i doubt there will be any further max 2008
updates once 2009 is released. So we probabely don´t have a choice and need to update
to 2009.
Clifton,
There’s a hotfix out for max 2008 which is supposed to address the outline spline issue.http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=10515400&linkID=9241178
We’ve installed it here, and I think it’s working.
-Derik
Cool, I had problems with this too.
Thanks for the info 
That is correct. If you are currently on subs for 2008, you will receive 2009 as soon as it is available. Subscription is an annual renewal regardless of how many releases take place in that time.
One of the other advantages of subs is the previous version usage allowance. If you are a normal upgrade user, you are required to remove the previous version from your machine, but if you’re on subs, you can keep them all loaded. At the very least this allows you to remain productive with your current version while integrating the newest version on the side.
Hello I bought Viz 2008 with souscription the 11 february 2008, do you think I have done well?
@dbibb: Thanks for the link. I missed that. I guess I should check the autodesk site more often… Cheers
I believe February 12th was the deadline so you should be safe.
WTF - I just noticed the availability to crossgrade from Viz to MAX for $250!!! $250? $250? $250??? I crossgraded between Viz to Max 9 and it cost me ~$1500. Thanks a lot Autodesk, FU :evil: :evil: :evil:!!!