# (Resolved) default color on image file with  UDIMs dont work

**URL:** <https://forums.chaos.com/t/resolved-default-color-on-image-file-with-udims-dont-work/102035>\
**Category:** Issues\
**Created:** [December 7, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/resolved-default-color-on-image-file-with-udims-dont-work/102035 "2020-12-07T10:42:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![LeoYfver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58956e/32.png) [@LeoYfver](https://forums.chaos.com/u/LeoYfver)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/resolved-default-color-on-image-file-with-udims-dont-work/102035/1 "2020-12-07T10:42:48Z")

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default color on image file with UDIMs dont work. both on laterst vray 5 and vray next

Regards Alexis  
[defaultColorUDIMS.zip](https://forums.chaos.com/uploads/short-url/gQKARcX9HeskO8yowgvXDWWENPU.zip) (41.1 KB)

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**Author:** ![LeoYfver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58956e/32.png) [@LeoYfver](https://forums.chaos.com/u/LeoYfver)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/resolved-default-color-on-image-file-with-udims-dont-work/102035/2 "2020-12-07T11:22:08Z")

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I realised that this has probably to do with a feature request from us from before where we can set a color on failed textures. So this probably overrides the default color. this is tricky how to solve this nicely.

[https://forums.chaosgroup.com/forum/…der-or-texture](https://forums.chaosgroup.com/forum/v-ray-for-houdini-forums/v-ray-for-houdini-wishlist/1082248-hou-2102-missing-default-shader-or-texture)

We will think some about this.

some ideas though:  
- remove the failed color on image file totally  
- exempt udims and non diffuse. even possible?  
- or have a toggle to turn this on so its off by default

the goal for us was when it fail to find a texture it would warn with a color. issue now it probably messes up with default color on the image nodes. and if it fails on for example roughness its still hard to see

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**Author:** ![bdancer](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/bdancer/32/52257_2.png) [@bdancer](https://forums.chaos.com/u/bdancer)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/resolved-default-color-on-image-file-with-udims-dont-work/102035/3 "2020-12-07T12:15:10Z")

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So regarding your previous request it was implemented with:  
Renderer → Options → Textures → No Bitmap Color / No Bitmap Texture  
Renderer → Options → Materials → No Material Color  
And I hope this’ll help somehow.

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**Author:** ![LeoYfver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58956e/32.png) [@LeoYfver](https://forums.chaos.com/u/LeoYfver)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/resolved-default-color-on-image-file-with-udims-dont-work/102035/4 "2020-12-07T13:05:41Z")

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Sorry for creating this problem

so im wondering if  
Renderer → Options → Textures → No Bitmap Color / No Bitmap Texture

can it be turned off by default? Because we want the default color on the image file node to work which it dont with this feature.

 ![bitmap.png](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/original/3X/f/8/f8b05dbf43476389a8dc2f4d00a9fcfd7a82b8c7.png)  
 ![default.png](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/original/3X/1/f/1fdadf04d228648abc6a9d922823f1e388e09ef3.png)

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**Author:** ![bdancer](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/bdancer/32/52257_2.png) [@bdancer](https://forums.chaos.com/u/bdancer)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/resolved-default-color-on-image-file-with-udims-dont-work/102035/5 "2020-12-08T13:01:13Z")

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\> can it be turned off by default?

Sure, I’ll add a control for on/off.

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**Author:** ![LeoYfver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58956e/32.png) [@LeoYfver](https://forums.chaos.com/u/LeoYfver)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/resolved-default-color-on-image-file-with-udims-dont-work/102035/6 "2020-12-08T14:29:06Z")

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thanks 😄 !
