I’m thinking about selling my license to 3ds Max 2018.
Apparently it should be possible here in EU (I think by contacting my local Autodesk office) but I wonder if anybody have any experience with this? We are obviously talking about a perpetual license where the maintenance has lapsed.
I don’t even know what kind of price I should request (or where to sell it), but first I need to figure out whether it is possible. I am sure the auto reply from Autodesk will be “No, go away!”, but some EU law seems to support the legal possibility to sell a license.
There is always a legal way to do it…in case they say no… open a LLC, transfer the ownership to that llc because if own I think 25% minimum you could transfer it… then you sell the LLC to the buyer and he transfer it to his company. … it’s very stupid but somebody sued AD some time ago for that reason and he won.
I have seen it.. I would love to hear some feedback from the lawyer on this. I do have older version of max. I am fine with that I do not have any support (lack of it anyway), no upgrades etc. I am aware that they want to force us to subscription but I am not sure if cutting off licence for us who paid for the software and have the right to use it PERMANENTLY is legal.
Furthermore it will hit every software company like Chaosgroup, Itoosoftware, everybody who is creating the content for max. I am sure many stays on subscription but others will not and migrate to different software like Blender, Cinema4d. Personally I stop buying anything max related until I have clear inf on this.
Wait… This can’t be legal!
or did I not buy a software to use but the permission to use the licence of the software under their rules? If it’s the later they could just do whatever they like. But it doesn’t legal at all
I’m surprised there is not a thread about that !
It may be the last bullshit of AD that would kill their oldest customers.
I don’t know… “perpetual” have a different meaning for AD…
Whatever, perpetual is defined as “never ending, endless… etc”, no ?
so WTF ?!
Autodesk has long held the award for the worst 3d software publishing company I have ever seen. They finish in style with this latest “joke”…
Trial
A trial license lets you run a product or suite in trial mode for a specified time period (usually 30 days). The trial period starts the first time you launch the product, or one of the products in a suite. You can activate and register the license at any time, before or after the trial period expires.
Perpetual
This license allows permanent, unlimited use of an Autodesk product.
Term Extendable
This license grants access to an Autodesk product for a limited time. The term can be extended at any time.
Term Non-Extendable
This license grants access to an Autodesk product for a limited time, which cannot be extended."
I’m not a specialist but yeah ! I agree, it seems pretty illegal ! I would like to know more about that
I hope there will be another way to deal with old licenses… old but perpetual !
i am quite sure that if you read the terms of use in the latest max 2020 instalation, there will be some sort of “hard to read” line “justifying the cause”.
Terms of use are always a subject to change and AD can pretty much do whatever they want.
Its their IP.
Do you think Adobe is acting differently? Try activating old Photoshop…NO DAMN CHANCE! Even if you call support.
They re basically just following the footsteps of far cheaper software vendors…the path has been set, users havent done much about it so why the fuck should they bother.
Lets just face it we will all have to do what theyve planned for us if we want to use MAX.
I dont really mind as long as MAX keeps improving and i am kind of happy with the way its developing (unlike many). And i dont mind paying as long as i get performance for the buck and as long as my customers are paying fair amounts for my work.
just my few cents into discussion…please rest asured i am not a troll payed by AD
If somebody can find the old terms of use then we could discuss over what they wrote and what might be different to actual law. I can’t find it though..
Well, I do care if I cannot use the software I have paid for. What I do not care if this cost them anything. I do not think it is problematic to software company who puts such a big effort in “popularizing” legal software to create small tool to generate the licences to old LEGAL copies of software they SOLD and took money for. I acknowledge that there is a need to 3dsmax update if you want to stay current with plugins, client demands that too because of cooperative reasons. Autodesk takes off permanent licences of the shell so in Europe some of us will take path of used software, even if they are threaten us with something like “permanent expire date”, which in many eyes can be seen as illegal clauses of agreement and I am sure will be challenge at some point, but to be more effective has to be class action lawsuit. That is my perspective. As for Adobe I am not sure if there is a problem now, I am just running fresh 10 years old copy of program. I am not cheap, I just do not need anything more from 2d program although my work rely heavily on it.
