# Server options **URL:** \ **Category:** Off-topic\ **Created:** [July 21, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645 "2015-07-21T15:25:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tricky](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/tricky/32/56653_2.png) [@tricky](https://forums.chaos.com/u/tricky)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/1 "2015-07-21T15:25:25Z")
I am looking at replacing our main server. We have a Synology NAS that is working well as a file server, but I am investigating something to act as a floating license server, backburner server etc. Any reason to have a fully-blown Windows Server system, or should any old ‘stable’ PC running Windows 7 suffice? ---
**Author:** ![Morne](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/morne/32/11335_2.png) [@Morne](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Morne)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/2 "2015-07-21T20:18:42Z")
If it’s just for licenses, then I’d say any old pc will do with Windows 7. No need to spend the extra cash on that. Rather take the cash that you would have used for Windows Server and instead get another render node ---
**Author:** ![Donald2B](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/donald2b/32/3244_2.png) [@Donald2B](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Donald2B)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/3 "2015-07-22T02:42:54Z")
I have a problem with the “any old” part of that sentence. This is your floating license server, so if that machine goes down, production stops! Unless you are running redundant license servers. It doesn’t have to be a major powerhouse, but it DEFINITELY needs to be reliable and a long term solution. But that’s just my two cents. I’ve had a license server fail and it really sucked! Took me almost two full working days to get all the licenses transferred to another machine to get the office back up and running. ---
**Author:** ![algato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@algato](https://forums.chaos.com/u/algato)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/4 "2015-07-22T09:09:15Z")
Hello, I have a open solaris zfs raid file server plus windows7 inside VirtualBox for licence server kind regards alex ---
**Author:** ![algato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@algato](https://forums.chaos.com/u/algato)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/5 "2015-07-22T09:14:53Z")
you can configure and start/stop virtualbox headless using phpvirtualbox. A another solution could be: vmware hypervisor with two systems - freenas with dedicated sata controller - windows 7 ---
**Author:** ![tricky](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/tricky/32/56653_2.png) [@tricky](https://forums.chaos.com/u/tricky)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/6 "2015-09-30T12:20:42Z")
We are about to migrate to a new tower-based server. In terms of the OS, any suggestions on this? We have had Windows SBS2003 for the last 7+ years. In all honesty, we use a fraction of the servers capabilities. We don’t even use it as a file server these days with dedicated NAS-based systems. It really sits there dishing out licenses for VRay, Itoosoft etc. That’s about it. Should we be moving to Windows Server 2012 or something lighter/different but equally as stable? ---
**Author:** ![Donald2B](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/donald2b/32/3244_2.png) [@Donald2B](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Donald2B)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/7 "2015-09-30T12:28:13Z")
If it’s just going to be a generic license server, you can just install windows 10 Professional and call it a day. Simple and easy to use and you can expand it to do other roles as needed. ---
**Author:** ![tricky](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/tricky/32/56653_2.png) [@tricky](https://forums.chaos.com/u/tricky)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/8 "2015-09-30T14:18:35Z")
> [@Donald2B](#): > > If it’s just going to be a generic license server, you can just install windows 10 Professional and call it a day. Simple and easy to use and you can expand it to do other roles as needed. Any issue with CALs on Windows 10 Pro? ---
**Author:** ![Donald2B](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/donald2b/32/3244_2.png) [@Donald2B](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Donald2B)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/9 "2015-09-30T14:57:45Z")
What are CALs? ---
**Author:** ![tricky](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/tricky/32/56653_2.png) [@tricky](https://forums.chaos.com/u/tricky)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/10 "2015-09-30T15:01:13Z")
> [@Donald2B](#): > > What are CALs? Client Access Licenses or something like that. Basically, every user needs one - not sure about renderboxes etc. ---
**Author:** ![Donald2B](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/donald2b/32/3244_2.png) [@Donald2B](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Donald2B)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/11 "2015-09-30T15:19:05Z")
AH! I’ve never seen that abbreviation. Yes, I have Nuke, Autodesk Design Premium, VRay, Sapphire AE plug-ins, PDPlayer and a host of other licenses on my Win10 box. All working without issues. If you wanted to, you could just use an older copy of Windows 7 Pro and just use that if you are too concerned about compatibility with older licensing software. (I did need to get different WIBU drivers for the VRay dongle, but that was pretty trivial) ---
**Author:** ![tricky](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/tricky/32/56653_2.png) [@tricky](https://forums.chaos.com/u/tricky)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/12 "2015-09-30T15:22:01Z")
> [@Donald2B](#): > > AH! I’ve never seen that abbreviation. > > Yes, I have Nuke, Autodesk Design Premium, VRay, Sapphire AE plug-ins, PDPlayer and a host of other licenses on my Win10 box. All working without issues. > > If you wanted to, you could just use an older copy of Windows 7 Pro and just use that if you are too concerned about compatibility with older licensing software. (I did need to get different WIBU drivers for the VRay dongle, but that was pretty trivial) I’ll have a think. I guess one of the main reasons justifying a formal ‘server’ is that it would be a domain controller too. ---
**Author:** ![Donald2B](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/donald2b/32/3244_2.png) [@Donald2B](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Donald2B)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/13 "2015-09-30T15:39:43Z")
Well, that changes EVERYTHING! If you are going to go with Active Directory and setting up as a Domain controller, then I wouldn’t get anything but Windows Server 2012. ---
**Author:** ![Morne](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/morne/32/11335_2.png) [@Morne](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Morne)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/14 "2015-09-30T15:52:44Z")
What would be the benefit of a domain controller for any company with few users, let’s say 10 users? ---
**Author:** ![tricky](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/tricky/32/56653_2.png) [@tricky](https://forums.chaos.com/u/tricky)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/15 "2015-10-01T07:36:55Z")
Security policy items and the like. ---
**Author:** ![Morne](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/morne/32/11335_2.png) [@Morne](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Morne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/16 "2015-10-01T11:32:53Z")
And you need that for small amount of users? Why? I’m asking because maybe I also need that and don’t even know it ---
**Author:** ![Donald2B](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/donald2b/32/3244_2.png) [@Donald2B](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Donald2B)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/17 "2015-10-01T11:56:07Z")
It also allows for better communication between computers on your network…so computer name resolution works a LOT better. You can also setup startup scripts that run when a user logs into a computer and can prep various features. ---
**Author:** ![Morne](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/morne/32/11335_2.png) [@Morne](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Morne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/18 "2015-10-01T12:09:40Z")
Yes I understand all this. I use to be a system administrator and also an IT manager for about 60 users back in the day when NT4 was king. I never thought of deploying a domain in a small scenario like 10 or less. This thread however is making me rethink my IT strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Donald2B](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/donald2b/32/3244_2.png) [@Donald2B](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Donald2B)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/19 "2015-10-01T13:00:09Z")
Ah, so you get it. (NT was awesome!) We are about 30ish people and we are not on a domain. I would prefer to be so it would be easier to manage the render farm and have a more centralized approach. ---
**Author:** ![ior\_0](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/ior_0/32/69041_2.png) [@ior\_0](https://forums.chaos.com/u/ior_0)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/server-options/54645/20 "2015-10-02T13:42:21Z")
So am I right in thinking that you could set up a win7 VM on a capable NAS (QNAPTS453) then get it to run backburner manager, host the Vray dongle and the V-RAY license server. All this whilst acting as your file server? Only asking as my current win7pro file/license server/dongle host, is an old quad-core Opteron(280) with a High-point RAID (10). BUT this can’t be upgraded to Win10. Old Opterons are missing an instruction set or something not supported. This is a solid machine (supermicro) but is probably starting to show it’s age and I’m looking at alternatives. I’m guessing it’d also be possible to keep the win7 server and the nodes/workstations as win10, is that likely to cause any problems on win10?