# Shadow Details

**URL:** <https://forums.chaos.com/t/shadow-details/31735>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [May 26, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/shadow-details/31735 "2008-05-26T16:17:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![zooropa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ba8739/32.png) [@zooropa](https://forums.chaos.com/u/zooropa)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/shadow-details/31735/1 "2008-05-26T16:17:50Z")

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Hi to all: I’m doing this work for the Uni. Do you know how to get more shadow at the ground? I’m reading the Vfr Manual and i found the Light and Shadow section but there are only details for Vfr lights…and im only using GI with Michas Hdri.

Thank you all

Zooropa

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**Author:** ![Micha\_cg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Micha\_cg](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Micha_cg)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/shadow-details/31735/2 "2008-05-26T18:21:15Z")

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Re: Shadow Details

If you like to get hard shadows, you must set an additional lightsource like an arealight (size control the softness of the shadow) or a distant light for a sun light effect.  
GI environment are good for soft shadows “only”.

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**Author:** ![zooropa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ba8739/32.png) [@zooropa](https://forums.chaos.com/u/zooropa)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/shadow-details/31735/3 "2008-05-29T03:41:37Z")

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Re: Shadow Details

Thanks Micha, i did the presentation. My light add a little more of shadow…but not significant. Probably i didn’t try too much.  
Thank you for help me with this hurry project.

Zooropa

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**Author:** ![zooropa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ba8739/32.png) [@zooropa](https://forums.chaos.com/u/zooropa)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/shadow-details/31735/4 "2008-06-09T00:54:16Z")

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Re: Shadow Details

Hey Micha, im at the second part of this project for the Uni. I realize my render has a really great shadow when i use the default settings of Vfr. Is this because the sun light?

Thank you  
Zooropa

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**Author:** ![Micha\_cg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Micha\_cg](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Micha_cg)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/shadow-details/31735/5 "2008-06-09T06:05:21Z")

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Re: Shadow Details

Right, the default setup use the physical sky, a color gradient sky for soft lighting/shadows + sun. The current sun can cause reflection artefacts between blury interreflections (shown at the starterkit thread), so be careful.

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**Author:** ![zooropa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ba8739/32.png) [@zooropa](https://forums.chaos.com/u/zooropa)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/shadow-details/31735/6 "2008-06-09T16:29:03Z")

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Re: Shadow Details

Thanks Micha i tried with a direct light. I like the result. The morph now it seems more clear for the lecture.

Thanks a lot

Zooropa