# Skin and beard shader, please help me!

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**Created:** [November 24, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393 "2016-11-24T23:23:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![prozac93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@prozac93](https://forums.chaos.com/u/prozac93)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/1 "2016-11-24T23:23:15Z")

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Hi, this is my first post on this forum, can someone please help me making a realistic skin shader??  
This guy below is the project I am working on, as you can see the shader i’ve created don’t looks so good, there is no ear back scatter etc.

My first skin shader in corona, I worked mostly in architecture visualization before so i am a newbuy in charatcer visualization in corona.

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**Author:** ![cecofuli](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/cecofuli/32/27814_2.png) [@cecofuli](https://forums.chaos.com/u/cecofuli)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/2 "2016-11-25T11:55:22Z")

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You need to use Absorption, Scattering and translucency (and reflection, obviously) option inside the CoronaMtl.  
Rendertime is so high because my old machine (I7 970), big arealight (TOP) and because… translucency is slow 🙂

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**Author:** ![prozac93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@prozac93](https://forums.chaos.com/u/prozac93)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/3 "2016-11-25T18:21:02Z")

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thank you for the support, here a new test with a screen of the settings

The model is 1:1 scale, are that settings correct for a human skin simulation??  
If no, can you help me to make the most realistic shader as possible?

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**Author:** ![sprayer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@sprayer\_1](https://forums.chaos.com/u/sprayer_1)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/4 "2016-11-25T18:52:30Z")

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[https://coronarenderer.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/5000534910-how-to-use-subsurface-scattering-volumetric-absorption-and-scattering-](https://coronarenderer.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/5000534910-how-to-use-subsurface-scattering-volumetric-absorption-and-scattering-)  
try to read this

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**Author:** ![leonel20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@leonel20](https://forums.chaos.com/u/leonel20)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2016, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/5 "2016-11-26T04:57:56Z")

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I’m not good in character rendering.  
but check this out [https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php/topic,10546.0.html](https://forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php/topic,10546.0.html)  
or you can contact the author there for more

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**Author:** ![prozac93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@prozac93](https://forums.chaos.com/u/prozac93)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/6 "2016-11-27T13:05:59Z")

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ok guys, now all the shaders seems to works!

Coming soon on artstation 😁

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**Author:** ![prozac93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@prozac93](https://forums.chaos.com/u/prozac93)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/7 "2016-11-27T13:40:13Z")

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omg.. it looks so physical and realistic in every angle with every lighting!  
This renderer is fabulous!

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**Author:** ![cecofuli](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/cecofuli/32/27814_2.png) [@cecofuli](https://forums.chaos.com/u/cecofuli)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/8 "2016-11-27T17:55:25Z")

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Very nice render. Finally some character and skin shader renders ))

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**Author:** ![prozac93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@prozac93](https://forums.chaos.com/u/prozac93)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/9 "2016-11-27T19:48:05Z")

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Thank you! Now I am working on a fur cloak over the shoulders, I’ll post some renders

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**Author:** ![sprayer\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@sprayer\_1](https://forums.chaos.com/u/sprayer_1)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/10 "2016-11-28T06:59:52Z")

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horns should have different glossiness than skin?  
nice render

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**Author:** ![romullus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/romullus/32/271095_2.png) [@romullus](https://forums.chaos.com/u/romullus)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/11 "2016-11-28T08:58:43Z")

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Nice work, but skin-horn transition should be very distinct ant not some colour gradient like it is now.

[http://www.compositeeffects.com/site\_images/CU/HMD/image\_109.jpg](http://www.compositeeffects.com/site_images/CU/HMD/image_109.jpg)  
[http://www.compositeeffects.com/site\_images/CU/HRM/image\_102.jpg](http://www.compositeeffects.com/site_images/CU/HRM/image_102.jpg)

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**Author:** ![prozac93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@prozac93](https://forums.chaos.com/u/prozac93)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/12 "2016-11-28T11:01:15Z")

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> [@sprayer](#):
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> horns should have different glossiness than skin?  
> nice render

i know, i am tryng to make a layered material with a mask on the horns but it still don’t looks realistic

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**Author:** ![prozac93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@prozac93](https://forums.chaos.com/u/prozac93)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/13 "2016-11-28T11:04:00Z")

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> [@romullus](#):
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> Nice work, but skin-horn transition should be very distinct ant not some colour gradient like it is now.
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> [http://www.compositeeffects.com/site\_images/CU/HMD/image\_109.jpg](http://www.compositeeffects.com/site_images/CU/HMD/image_109.jpg)  
> [http://www.compositeeffects.com/site\_images/CU/HRM/image\_102.jpg](http://www.compositeeffects.com/site_images/CU/HRM/image_102.jpg)

you have totally right but i’ve modeled the face a year ago and if I change the mesh i have to repaint it all, i am thinking seriously to put an helmet on

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**Author:** ![prozac93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@prozac93](https://forums.chaos.com/u/prozac93)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/14 "2016-11-28T11:07:25Z")

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i wanted to make the skin became horn in a gradient way but the effect doesn’t look good as i thought

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**Author:** ![prozac93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@prozac93](https://forums.chaos.com/u/prozac93)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/15 "2016-11-28T11:28:12Z")

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“warlord of the black wood”

6.818.374 polys, my intel integrated card is screaming, lol  
All the fur, all the beard is geometry, the armor is a decimated mesh without any displacement or normal maps and the face have a 4k displacement on it

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**Author:** ![prozac93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@prozac93](https://forums.chaos.com/u/prozac93)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/16 "2016-11-28T11:42:19Z")

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ah, i have another issue, if i set the displacement to 2px it render instantly, if I try to go down like 1.5 it become very slow and it take hours to start the initial pass, any advice to get a good displacement without taking all that time?

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**Author:** ![leonel20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@leonel20](https://forums.chaos.com/u/leonel20)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/17 "2016-11-28T12:31:19Z")

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> [@prozac93](#):
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> ah, i have another issue, if i set the displacement to 2px it render instantly, if I try to go down like 1.5 it become very slow and it take hours to start the initial pass, any advice to get a good displacement without taking all that time?

2px to 1.5px in displacement has impact to RAM but imho it wouldnt be that far different (take hours with single character rendering). Did you receive a warning about running out RAM? Because low RAM can kill the rendering parsing time

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**Author:** ![prozac93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@prozac93](https://forums.chaos.com/u/prozac93)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/18 "2016-11-28T12:49:51Z")

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haha.. yes, every time, I just ignore the message XD , with 8 giga of Ram i don’t expect to have high performances

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**Author:** ![leonel20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@leonel20](https://forums.chaos.com/u/leonel20)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/19 "2016-11-28T13:50:13Z")

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Haha, i hate the time when i face a low RAM problem too  
if i’m not wrong i remember that somewhere here one of corona team said he is planning an improvement of memory management or something like that

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**Author:** ![tom\_grimes](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/tom_grimes/32/52842_2.png) [@tom\_grimes](https://forums.chaos.com/u/tom_grimes)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/skin-and-beard-shader-please-help-me/135393/20 "2016-11-28T14:36:28Z")

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Memory optimizations are on the roadmap, [Trello](https://trello.com/b/EfPE4kPx/corona-road-map-3ds-max) - best place to check for what is in the pipeline!

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