# vray is/not interesting **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [July 6, 2004, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313 "2004-07-06T06:45:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nukleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dfb087/32.png) [@nukleon](https://forums.chaos.com/u/nukleon)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/1 "2004-07-06T06:45:07Z")
Hi all Let me ask you some things.There are many renderers on the market.Which do you thing is the best overall?Other renderers have some good know-hows that vray doesnt have.Which know-hows from other renders would you want to have in vray? ---
**Author:** ![cocolas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@cocolas](https://forums.chaos.com/u/cocolas)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/2 "2004-07-06T06:47:56Z")
what the… :?: :?: ---
**Author:** ![natty](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/natty/32/22731_2.png) [@natty](https://forums.chaos.com/u/natty)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/3 "2004-07-06T08:09:19Z")
hi nukleon have you tried Vray Advanced? What do you think is missing from vray? ---
**Author:** ![tammo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e0b2c6/32.png) [@tammo](https://forums.chaos.com/u/tammo)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/4 "2004-07-06T08:10:57Z")
i would like to have your know-how. please send to me. ---
**Author:** ![tom\_schuelke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e79b87/32.png) [@tom\_schuelke](https://forums.chaos.com/u/tom_schuelke)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/5 "2004-07-06T10:22:17Z")
Well first, to switch it to the right direction, i know what i wouldnt want to be in vray . 🙂 sloooooowlyness. this is the biggest advantage of Vray. While other renderers in terms of interface and sophisticated materials sometimes seem to be a bit more advanced, it seems to me, that vray is much much faster as others. so what ever happens this should stay. All other things can be done in Vray as well as in other renderers. but of course this question was ment seriously. so what would i like more ? (hmm this also could be posted in the wishlist) - faster sss - sophisticated materials - at last finished distributed singleframe network rendering (vlado works on this) - vray frbuffer improvements , Geddart, EGZ and me worked on this and well, maybe later some of these ideas will find their way [http://www.tom-schuelke.com/vr-fbi.pdf](http://www.tom-schuelke.com/vr-fbi.pdf) - some further improvements of global switches, and more options in Materials, still better improved fake highlights, a selfilu slot in the vray mat, many many little things. but at last this will come soon or later, and the rest, vray is best. 😄 Tom ---
**Author:** ![percydaman](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/percydaman/32/42214_2.png) [@percydaman](https://forums.chaos.com/u/percydaman)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/6 "2004-07-06T10:25:41Z")
vray doesn’t YET have the flashy bling bling that some other renderers might have. but it has them all beat in horsepower…[/i] ---
**Author:** ![axesaxes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@axesaxes](https://forums.chaos.com/u/axesaxes)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/7 "2004-07-06T11:41:38Z")
Vray has the best Forum 😄😄😄 ---
**Author:** ![plastic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/plastic/32/11567_2.png) [@plastic](https://forums.chaos.com/u/plastic)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/8 "2004-07-06T11:52:17Z")
mental ray has a cooler name ---
**Author:** ![nukleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dfb087/32.png) [@nukleon](https://forums.chaos.com/u/nukleon)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/9 "2004-07-06T13:07:50Z")
nukleon I have vray advanced. I am intersred in why are there a lot of expensive benchmarks and vray seems to me VERY easy. I am using finalrender in all my work because its the best cos I can tweak evereything I want and vray isnt stable so thats why ---
**Author:** ![suurland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@suurland](https://forums.chaos.com/u/suurland)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/10 "2004-07-06T13:30:08Z")
If it’s the best then continue to use it! /Thomas ---
**Author:** ![RErender](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/rerender/32/42964_2.png) [@RErender](https://forums.chaos.com/u/RErender)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/11 "2004-07-06T13:32:15Z")
Is this for real? Edwin is that you? :shock: ---
**Author:** ![suurland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@suurland](https://forums.chaos.com/u/suurland)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/12 "2004-07-06T13:33:34Z")
🙂 ---
**Author:** ![natty](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/natty/32/22731_2.png) [@natty](https://forums.chaos.com/u/natty)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/13 "2004-07-06T13:34:01Z")
I dont think we should get into who is best … we all make our own choices into which renderer we put our time into … i personally use vray, i also have used Finalrender and also Brasil, not to mention Lightscape and Virtualight… oh and InSight, but have settled with Vray for many reasons… so you can pick holes in all these renders, but what is the point. ---
**Author:** ![Long\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@Long\_John](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Long_John)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/14 "2004-07-06T14:06:02Z")
i would like to have a more focused development on vray. seeing that the caustic bug was unnoticed an many others pop up, now that the early “1.5 beta” was released, i think we will see MANY 1.4.x.x versions before we see a stable and finished v1.5. ☹ same game as with 1.1 if you ask me. ---
**Author:** ![plastic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/plastic/32/11567_2.png) [@plastic](https://forums.chaos.com/u/plastic)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/15 "2004-07-06T14:14:26Z")
i just finished a new project with 1.45.70, and didn’t have a single problem, even with new features, including the amazing new lightmap and render passes. i found some bugs i will report later, like putting a gradient into the vray opacity slot crashes max, but this is non-important stuff. ---
**Author:** ![cocolas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@cocolas](https://forums.chaos.com/u/cocolas)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/16 "2004-07-06T14:21:41Z")
> [@RErender](#): > > Is this for real? Edwin is that you? :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 😄😛😉 ---
**Author:** ![egz](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/chaosprd/user_avatar/forums.chaos.com/egz/32/32687_2.png) [@egz](https://forums.chaos.com/u/egz)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/17 "2004-07-06T15:30:03Z")
> same game as with 1.1 if you ask me. Have you noticed that no one is asking you 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Long\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@Long\_John](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Long_John)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/18 "2004-07-06T16:10:07Z")
no need to get personal egz. 😉 you seem to have a little problem with other peoples opinions? ---
**Author:** ![J\_Bug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/278dde/32.png) [@J\_Bug](https://forums.chaos.com/u/J_Bug)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/19 "2004-07-06T16:28:44Z")
Long John: It becomes more than just your opinion when you are shoving it down our throats repeatedly :roll: --Jon ---
**Author:** ![Biohazard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3bc359/32.png) [@Biohazard](https://forums.chaos.com/u/Biohazard)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313/20 "2004-07-06T17:12:14Z")
Well well, there are 70 people on the floor using Vray Int builds here, plus 200 bi xeon / Atlhon for the farm. And it’s a matter of fact that we decided to use Vray because of its lovely logo. 🙂 In our specific case, starting Myst with finalrender in 2002 would have been a supa-joke. Use what you want as long as you want, that’s the democracy of rendering. Well, anyways, you are not here to argue about anything I guess. Show me your belly buton, I’ll show you mine. [Next page](https://forums.chaos.com/t/vray-is-not-interesting/4313.md?page=2)