Guggenheim New York (3D PDF)

[DrJan]

Somehow, it doesn't seem to be working for me. I can't pan/zoom/rotate...

I use FoxIt PDF Reader.

[vlado]

Use Acrobat Reader, I'm not sure FoxIt supports this stuff at all.

Best regards,
Vlado

[fabriceb]

Hi SOid,
I just looked at you realtime pdf GUgenheim and, well impressed! I have managed to complete a few similar projects over the past few years but I'm finding the demand quite weak for this type of product (compared to stills or animations)...
Anyway, the reason I write is I am wondering how you achieved this type of trees. Did you make them yourself? or did you buy them from somewhere? I have been looking for low poly trees like that for years but never found them!!!
Many thanks
Fabrice

[soid]

Hi Fabrice,
I created the trees on my own, for further details on how, I suggest to visit my opacity bug workaround tutorial.

http://3dpdf.blogspot.com/2009/01/op...orkaround.html

And yes you are right, Texture Baking creates additional work, but on the other hand you need less computer resources than on high end rendeing, because of pdf's limited capabilities.
With my tutorials I try to deliver user oriented knowledge to a) attract interest of users they are not into realtime 3D yet, and b), giving timesaving solutions to accelerate the development of 3D graphics for 3Dpdf. Therefore I invite everyone to participate in a discussion, using the comment function, to share knowledge, experience and problems regarding the creation of 3Dpdf's.

Best regards, Chuck

[dbuchhofer]

Another tip for reducing of seams, use brute force instead of using irradiance map, you'll get a better lightmap in less pixels, and wont have to deal with the edge bleeding

[nvanherpt]

trying this with acrobat 9 and it doesn't seem to support .rh files.....

[soid]

Thanks for the info nvanherpt,
as I figured out thet Acrobat 9 has no 3D toolkit, and has no additional 3D features (due to .u3d fileformat for internal use) I didn't waste more time into that new version.
If you cant go on Acrobat 8 try .obj which also supports UV coordinates.

http://guruware.at/main/objio/index.html

Best regards, Chuck

[nvanherpt]

that works thanks, but neither obj or 3ds give me the textures, which it makes it pretty much useless.

i wonder if that's because it's Acrobat 9?

[soid]

The standard .obj exporter from 3ds max doen't export/support UV coordinates or materials or both.
Try the one from Guruware, but keep in mind that this exporter does not support all material types I mentioned before. I'm sorry to say that, but it's almost impossible to work with acrobat 9 Pro Extended if you're coming from max with your data.

Edit:
I have another Idea if youre forced to use Acrobat 9: Import the .rh to Deep exploration (if you have it) and save there as .u3d, and import the .u3d to pdf.


Best regards, Chuck

[steveblake]

Just noticed that Right Hemisphere's Deep View 5.7 Complete [free version] has PDF export. Might be an option..?

http://www.righthemisphere.com/produ...iew/index.html

direct link: http://www.righthemisphere.com/produ...6_Complete.exe

[soid]

Deep View

Hi Steve,
with Deep View comes an MS Office export module for exporting 3D objects out of Office (didn't know that Office can do 3D). So for 3D file conversion you have to use Acrobat 3D, Acrobat 9 Pro Extended or Deep Exploration. You can create pdf's out Deep Exploration directly, but there you get a pre defined page layout and no ability to add a Javascript like in this testscene http://soid.active-servers.com/pdf/k...rator%2085.pdf (you can change wood types and chairs there).

Best regards,
Chuck

[jamesf73]

i'm having a play round with this at the moment, but am having difficulty with glass materials. at most angles they just seem to show through to the background - anyone got any advice?

many thanks

j

[soid]

Hi James,
try to activate double sided rendering in the 3d settings of your acrobat/reader.
If that helps attach a Javascript with the following line to your pdf, to make sure double sided is active regardless the local application settings.

scene.renderDoubleSided=1;

If double sided rendering doesn't fix the problem you can send me a pdf showing the problem to ramtam@arcor.de, maybe i'll find a solution.

Best regards, Chuck

[jamesf73]

thanks Chuck,

I'll give it a go in the next day or so. love what you've done with the guggenheim by the way

j

[gfa2]

Has anyone tried doing something on an interior space with this?