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  • #16
    For a bathroom

    Thanks for the feedback Micha.

    The light sources all have different colors. Pale blue for the window lights, nearly pure white for the incandescent sconces, and very pale yellow for the linear. When you have all three direct light sources in such close proximity, it may be difficult to tell the difference.

    I don't generally store the lights in the GI because I want the ray traced detail. The render time isn't really a problem, it's the calc time. Upping the samples to store the lights will increase calc time.
    Fran

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    • #17
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      Light color - I have the feeling Vray makes the color less saturated as Maxwell. If I want to get a colored light, than it seem to be I must use a stronger saturated color. Do have the same experience?
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      • #18
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        I haven't experimented much with that because I don't really want the color of the light to influence the scene too much. It's something to think about though.
        Fran

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        • #19
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          I forgot to mention that I notice banding in the low-light areas.
          Fran

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by Frances
            I forgot to mention that I notice banding in the low-light areas.
            I have seen it to and have thought you have done a post work correction. It's the pure render image?
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            • #21
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              No post work. I see it in the VFB too. I guess it could be a restriction because I'm using Vray in evaluation mode?
              Fran

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              • #22
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                My only crit is the shower cord, it should have a more parabolic curve to look natural I think.
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                • #23
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                  I was going to change it, and ended up leaving it like it is. You're right - a parabolic curve is what it would naturally do - and is an easy fix. I'm going to bring the model into Max to see if I still have the banding problem when I render, so I'll change it.

                  Is anyone else having the banding problem? I'm using the plug-in in Evaluation mode, not activated. Could this be a built-in restriction (like image size limited to 1600x1200)?

                  Also, am I the only one who can't get shadows on surfaces with bump mapping materials?
                  Fran

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                  • #24
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                    Frances,

                    The banding is not a restriction on our part. We will look into the shadows issue. Can you send us a partial scene oe scenes with your render settings that reproduces both problems?

                    Best regards,

                    Corey
                    Best regards,

                    Corey Rubadue
                    Director

                    Chaos Group

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                    • #25
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                      I see no banding in your images. Probably your monitor, is it a LCD?
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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by flipside
                        I see no banding in your images. Probably your monitor, is it a LCD?
                        My is a notebook TFT.
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                        • #27
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                          Wouter, yes. But I've not seen banding like that before.

                          Corey, I'll get a modest package together for you to look at.
                          Fran

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                          • #28
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                            Could be, but the thing is that I don't see any banding. Could you add circles around in photoshop or something where the banding should be?

                            In some rare cases, I also have banding in images (in max!), where there are very subtle gradients. Then I put the image on my crt instead of the lcd and the banding dissappears Really, good crt's are still better than LCD's, altough the difference is insignificant in most cases.
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                            • #29
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                              Frances here a banding monitor test: build an image in photoshop with a black and a white stripe. Now use the gaussian blur and try to get a smooth gradient. Do you get one? I don't get it. I see three or four bands in the gradient.
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                              • #30
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                                Wouter, the problem area is the dark part under the mirror behind the faucet. I have thousands of my rendered images to look at and none of them have this banding. The only difference I can think of is that I've never used the Vray frame buffer before now. That's why I want to try to recreate the scene in Max and render to the Max frame buffer.

                                Micha, I get a very good gradient with your method.
                                Fran

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