building another 3970x system. should i go for the same spec or change a bit?

[zivmil]

building another 3970x system. should i go for the same spec or change a bit?

hi guys. at work my workstation is a 3970x amd and i am really happy with it. my home computer is intel 5820K overclocked to 4000 mhz
with 2 1080 TI. gaming performance are great on the 5820K but when i want to work at home its a super big difference between them so i want to consult with you about the upgrade specs.

the computer at my job is
cpu: 3970x
MB: asus gaming strix- gaming
HyperX FURY RGB 4x16GB DDR4 3466MHz CL16 44mm hight ram
aorus 360 RGB AIO 360mm
corsair 750D case
850W corsair psu
samsung 970 evo nvme.

i work and render on this spec 9 to 10 hours daily and every thing is rock solid. temp with this AIO 360 are around 77 to 85C on full load at 3850 to 3900 all cores. overclocking to 4000 all cores the temps gets to 92 - 95 stable but dont think it worth the heat. so i leave it at stock.

my main concerns are: 1) can i get an air cooler for my home 3970x?
at my job we order the 360 aio because if there is a leak the studio can cover the damage. but at my home its my personal computer i don't want to worry about leaks and stuff. so can i get a Be-quiet dark rock TR4 and expect good temps and solid stable rendering like with the aorus 360?

1. case - i need a big enough case to big air cooler and 2 1080 TI with 2 pci 2 slots spacing. my options are be quiet dark base pro 900 rev2,
   asus helios , evolve x. i am leaning towards the helios at the moment.
   in my country all the above cases are the same price… maybe because the shipping and logistics… so the helios is 350$ and the be quiet same price.

3)MB.ROG Strix TRX40-E is the cheapest at my country… but with my experience is doing the job great. any reason to add extra and getting a gigabyte designare with better vrm or its a waste of money?

thank you for the help.

[Paul Oblomov]

Well AIO is sh*t Using simple noctua with two fans attached (3960x). Always below 75C. Also, I would recomend using all RAM slots.

[PIXELBOX_SRO]

i ve got 2990WX on 53 under full load with Kraken..no clue where these temps come from ))

[Alex_M]

Your temps are a bit on the high side. From what I see on product images, that AIO doesn't cover the whole heat spreaded of the Threadripper CPU so part of the chiplets, which are spread out and not in the center as most CPUs, don't get cooled properly. You are better off getting a Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 which covers the whole heat spreader. I cool my 3970x with it. At stock it rarely goes above ~70*C.

My motherboard is also ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming. I've not had any problems with it so far.

[suurland]

I would recomend using all RAM slots.

I've been doing some research on that, and I haven't found anything that says it is better to fill them up compared to only putting 4 in, so if you have any info to share I would appreciate it.

/Thomas

[zivmil]

Thank guys.
well 3970x draws more power then the 2990wx so no wonder its run hotter even at 90 the 3970x is stable for long renders. but never mind that because for my home system i will go for air cooler.can you please help me decide between the bequiet tr4 and the noctua tr4 with 2 nf15 fans? i have been told that the noctua will block the first pci-e slot because the asus rog strix has little gap between the memory and the first pci-e slot ,and i want to put my 2 X 1080ti sli in the new system so i must use the first slot. so should i go for the gigabyte board instead? i uploaded a pic showing the spacing from the cpu and mem to the first pci-e.

[Alex_M]

I did a quick test with my GTX 1080 Ti and it seems to fit fine in the first slot of my ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming + Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3.

[Paul Oblomov]

You can lift the radiator a bit up.

About RAM and channels - RAM speed just would be faster. You can tets with AIDA, latest versions and see it urself.

[suurland]

About RAM and channels - RAM speed just would be faster. You can tets with AIDA, latest versions and see it urself.

I can't test it as I don't have a system yet, still trying to figure out what to buy. But I did research that the Asus Zenith || Extreme and TRX40 Aorus xtreme are both Daisy chained topology, I can't find any info on the ROG Strix TRX40-E if it i Daisy chained or T-topology. But with Daisy chained memory it is to my understanding best to only use half 4 dimms instead of 8.

[Paul Oblomov]

Well, I have 3960x and 256 gigs. Can show u mine aida speed. And you can compare with other results

[suurland]

Well, I have 3960x and 256 gigs. Can show u mine aida speed. And you can compare with other results

Please do, I'm sure several would find it interesting as many seems to have trouble finding the right memory.

[Alex_M]

What exactly seems to be the trouble with memory? It's simple. Just look up the Memory QVL list of the motherboard you're expecting to buy and see if the RAM you want to buy is in that list. If it is, it should run without any issues because the motherboard manufacturer has tested it. Here's the Memory QVL list for ASUS ROG Strix 40-E Gaming. Just make sure you get at least 3200 Mhz clock speed if possible and at least CL16 latency. You can shell out a bit more $$$ for CL15 or CL14 RAM if you'll regularly run latency sensitive workloads which rendering to my knowledge is not. Also, no need to go overboard and pay big money for kits that are over 3600 Mhz because 1st, the gains for rendering will be almost non existent and 2nd, the Infinity Fabric clock is coupled with the RAM clock speed up to 3733 Mhz and anything higher decouples the Infinity Fabric clock which will introduce latency penalty.

So to summarize, RAM - 3200-3600 CL16 is your safest bet for smooth experience and if you regularly run latency sensitive workloads, look for RAM that is CL15 or CL14.

[Paul Oblomov]

I'm gonna OC my ram a lil bit. One day. ANy way, official support is 2666 for 256gb kits.

https://forums.chaosgroup.com/forum/...27#post1056227

[suurland]

Alex: Yeah, I'm going for 3200mhz c16, I need 128gb as I have 64gb now and that isn't enough, I would prefer 4x32gb but finding that is near impossible it seems, or finding some that is in stock, the largest dealer here has 20 128gb kits (both 8x16 and 4x32), 1 kit they can get in 4-5 days (8x16), a few is expected to take 9-10 days, and the majority they can't even give a date on

[PIXELBOX_SRO]

unfortunatelly its because of the virus. I have a info from my supplier that situation is unlikely to change in upcoming weeks hes directly in touch with G.SKILL