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  • Whats considered a smokin hot rig today?

    So what is considered a very high end rig for 3dsmax and vray archviz nowadays? I have read just about every thread on this forum and many others and am starting to go cross-eyed!

    I am looking to upgrade my main workstation and get or build a new one. I have built many workstations over the years but for the last few years and have been buying used Dell Precision T5400 and T7400 (they are quiet, easy to work on and have been reliable). Right now I am using a Dual Xenon 3.0ghz Dell T7400 with 20 GB ram and a GTX 580 running a Dell 30" monitor. Someone else will inherit this workstation and I want a new one. I will put a new SSD drive in the new workstation and will be using my 3 monitor rig with the 30" Dell and two 20" side monitors. I have a small Vray render farm with 6 nodes each running dual xenons (a few years old now).

    I do mostly large landscapes and architecture stills for print. Usually with alot of plants and most of my 3dsmax2012 files end up around 100mb or so. I have been struggling with abysmal viewport lag and have tried everything from new drivers, to new video cards, etc. I am trying to decide whether i (flashback here) buy some parts and frankenstein a new monster workstation. Or buy a second hand/refurbished workstation and tweak that. Or maybe get a new Dell workstation (probably too much money).

    So, if I build it myself, I am comparing and shopping for:
    • Motherboard
    • CPU
    • RAM
    • Power Supply and Cooling


    I am now officially baffled on the CPU and motherboard. Do i want dual Xenons? Single chip? Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge, Sandy Bridge - E? 6-Core, 8-core, i7? What is considered the current smokin hot setup for a 3d modelling/rendering workstation that is not the MOST expensive. For the parts listed above (that means no video card) I have an allowance of $2-3k US so that should get me something awesome right? My 700$ dell T7400 workstation with dual xenons has served me well but i want to go up a few (many) notches. More power please! My primary goals? Viewport performance and test rendering speed. All other features and tweaks are probably not as important as I do fairly straight forward arch-viz work. What gets me excited? Not having to make every single object "Display as Box" just to rotate the viewport, and, seeing buckets fly when i do my test renders. My workflow consists of constant test renderings. Then I DR/batch render 10-15 cameras when I am ready to produce final renders (using PSD manager).

    Please contribute if you don't mind. I realize this question can be annoying to many, but i am lost in the woods!
    • Dual 3.47 ghz Hex Core Xeon CPUs; 96GB Ram; SSD Drive; 3dsMax 2020; V-Ray; Sketchup 2020
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  • #2
    48+gb ram, 5ghz 6/8 core cpu - single socket. SSD and 4/8gb gtx...

    Remember to research CPU since some of the new chips dont overclock at all.

    I would not suggest going dual CPU - remember everysingle dual CPU rig is slower in ram reads/write than single sockets.

    GL
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    • #3
      Okay so here are two possible options:

      First Option:
      Build my own
      32gb Ram
      X79 Motherboard
      i7-3930k 3.2 ghz Six-Core
      for about $1,500

      Second Option:
      Second Hand Dell T7500
      DUAL Six-core Xeon 2.66ghz
      24gb RAM
      for about $2,500

      Wish i wasn't so confused! Any ideas? I want an awesome fast working workstation....
      • Dual 3.47 ghz Hex Core Xeon CPUs; 96GB Ram; SSD Drive; 3dsMax 2020; V-Ray; Sketchup 2020
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      • #4
        I would go with ur own rig


        Ur rig = 3.2 ghz OC to 4.5 = 27 000
        Dell = 31 992

        The difference is that 75% of max and maya are single threated - modeling, translating scens, opening, saving etc etc 90% of work is on 1 threat. Ur machine will deal with those calculations 2x quicker than dell...

        Also ur machine will have faster Buss speed between CPU and RAM thanks to OC giving u more edge. Also the DDR3 works a lot faster on 1 CPU socked than 2 CPU sockeds.

        Unsless u can OC Dell to 4.5 ghz go with ur rig.
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        • #5
          where you get this "8gb gtx" i WANT one...

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          • #6
            rig no1. I have build one based on 3930k (OC to 4.5)few months ago and if I have to say that is much faster on daily basis than 2xxeon 2.6 I have been using in my previous work.
            Best Regards

            Tomek

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            • #7
              Alternative option is to get what I got now. EVGA SR 2 - 2x Xeon 6 core - OC to 4.5 each - 48+gb ram + SSDs. I smoke most of rigs round me... - it should be cheaper but bit hardter to get parts for...



              super gnu- isnt there the 695 or so model 2xGPU 4 gb each core?
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              • #8
                hmm ive seen mention of a couple, not actually available i think, but i must admit i was hoping you meant a single chip card with 8 gb!!, since for both viewports and RT you wont get the actual benefit of those 8gb. viewports dont use 2 gpus and RT will still be limited to 4 gb scenes.

                im dying for a gpu with loads of ram at the moment. for my viewports mainly.. im working with some very heavy models and once yer gpu ram is full, everything gets a bit crashy.

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                • #9
                  http://videocardz.com/33375/asus-lau...-8gb-of-memory

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                  • #10
                    Dont mars cost like 1000$ and u can only have 1 per home address? =D
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                    • #11
                      translated: complete waste of money.

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                      • #12
                        i did see also, mention of an amd 7970 (single chip card) with 6gb ram. that would be nice, or at least, as good as the quadro 6000, but i cant find 3dsmax viewport benchmarks of the 7970. i know its borked in RT - STILL - (come on AMD / Chaos, we want it to wooork!!)

                        but if it (and the drivers) work well in the viewports id still consider it.

                        oh and does this still come under the discussion of smoking hot rigs, or did i thread hijack... ?

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                        • #13
                          I hear the new AMD is better than Nvidia in viewport performancezzz
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                          • #14
                            hm but where did you hear this? i need graphs dammit! a nice review or something..? ive used ati cards in the past and always found them a bit glitchy in max, but that was a long time ago.

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                            • #15
                              We got a marketing email the other day for some rack-based system that had 8 x 6-core CPUS in it (so 96 buckets) and 384GB RAM. I'd love to see that system running max/vray. Only slight problem is they are around £20k retail!
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