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    ive literally never used or really investigated HDR workflow, output or screens, but im considering a new monitor, and i like the idea of doing some hdr work.

    so.. does getting an hdr capable screen cause any problems for photoshop etc?

    can i view a render in hdr in the vfb/photoshop/ae?

    file formats to output animation?


    any other tips/advice from people who have trodden the path?

    cheers!

  • #2
    ok didnt exactly get much of a response to my question.. maybe its sooo complicated at the moment that nobody has the energy to explain it

    anyway, thanks to Covid, there is some goverment support available in the form of tax deductions on new equipment. 45% back on the price of new kit!

    seems it might be the right moment for a new screen.


    given a budget of 1000 euros or less (ideally less!)

    can somebody suggest a monitor to me?

    im currently using a 27 inch 1440p monitor i got via ebay from south korea (there was a mania for this a few years back, apparently same screen as apple cinema display of the time.. 1/4 the cost)


    so, i expect ill likely be easy to impress.


    id like 4k, id like 27" plus, but not too big. id like good colour accuracy, and ideally id like hdr10 so i can view hdr content as it should be, and play around with producing stuff.


    i saw this one which looks nice:

    https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-VP2...Btu0hsCyx&th=1


    opinions/advice most appreciated.

    cheers!


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    • #3
      Rendering to hdr for viewing will be just rendering to exr, then compiling with a suitable codec, so simple enough.
      Question is why, I guess, other than for fun, which is fair enough. I can't think of any good enough reason to get a monitor which displays it for general viewing, as there's
      really very little content available. I noticed that I could turn it on in Cyberpunk if I had the tech but certainly wouldn't splash for one for just games

      Maybe when/if it levels out and there is recognised standard then it will catch on...for now....maybe not

      I still use an inherited 32inch 4k Phillips monitor from 5 years ago and it is great...so many other options though, you're spoiled for choice

      As to whether you could view it in vfb, I'd guess not, without the necessary 10bit stuff. Here is random link about P'shop https://community.adobe.com/t5/photo.../td-p/10034134

      I wonder if it damages your eyes, looing at all those superbrights all the time?...bad enough with a regular monitor lol

      I was tasked once with developing content for a lenticular display made by some company when 3dtv was 'the next big thing'.
      It was a fucking enormous thing we had in the studio for a few weeks...4 ft across iirc....could barely glance at it without getting
      an instant massive headache....and the heat it gave off was enough for sunburn....some tech needs to stay on the drawing board for sure
      https://www.behance.net/bartgelin

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      • #4
        I bought the cheapest LG OLED TV, at 55". (lg oled b9 55")
        I am not, ever, going to look back at a normal monitor.
        Largely, truth be told, because those shot my eyesight over the years.
        But the device's own gamut, the richness of colours and the pixel-perfect, blindingly strong, HDR make this thing a beauty to behold.
        It was, on offer, around a grand Euro with a soundbar and woofer included.
        Lele
        Trouble Stirrer in RnD @ Chaos
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        Disclaimer:
        The views and opinions expressed here are my own and do not represent those of Chaos Group, unless otherwise stated.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ^Lele^ View Post
          I bought the cheapest LG OLED TV, at 55". (lg oled b9 55")
          I am not, ever, going to look back at a normal monitor.
          Largely, truth be told, because those shot my eyesight over the years.
          But the device's own gamut, the richness of colours and the pixel-perfect, blindingly strong, HDR make this thing a beauty to behold.
          It was, on offer, around a grand Euro with a soundbar and woofer included.
          interesting choice...! 55" waaay too big for me, and im surprised one so technically minded as yourself would choose a tv for work... what about colour accuracy? my main concern is if its possible to have something accurate enough for day-to-day use, which still allows HDR. where when i set up a set of renders and send them to client, they dont look radically awful on their "normal" screens, or in print.

          (i am unfortunately basically illiterate when it comes to colour spaces, lut's and all that shizzle.. i had a hard enough time understanding gamma back when that was being discussed ad-nauseam on the forums..

          having said that, i assume now and in the future, more and more animation will be viewed on HDR "tv" screens anyway. Which is why I wanted to be able to "see the light" here too. i was planning to keep my current screen ( which seems to produce a result my clients like) as second monitor, so i can always compare there.


          anyway, its possible this purchase will go on the back burner, it looks like im about to invest in a cnc machine and 3d printer and learn me some digital manufacturing stuff as you can see i have an itchy wallet.


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          • #6
            The key for me was pixel density, when viewed at arm's length.
            A 4k 55" is exactly the same as a 27" 1920p.

            The other bit was color accuracy, and the panel is a little beast.
            I was lucky when i got it, it's already well tracked as it is, but calibration is definitely an option and then the thing becomes near reference-grade (look it up in google. some incredibly graphs on show.).
            It has 98% DCI-P3 coverage, and some *stunning* HDR tone mapping (of HDR content. meaning, how it'll display it in HDR mode.)
            OLED has a slightly reduced color volume, so BT2020 performance isn't stellar, but then you'll be hard pressed indeed to find out with your eyes only.

            You'd need to fiddle a bit with some of the options to stop it from treating you like you were browsing TVs in a supermarket, though.
            All in all, however, i could not be happier, and this could well be the last display device i'll ever need to buy.
            Last edited by ^Lele^; 17-02-2021, 12:01 PM.
            Lele
            Trouble Stirrer in RnD @ Chaos
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            emanuele.lecchi@chaos.com

            Disclaimer:
            The views and opinions expressed here are my own and do not represent those of Chaos Group, unless otherwise stated.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ^Lele^ View Post
              I bought the cheapest LG OLED TV, at 55". (lg oled b9 55")
              I am not, ever, going to look back at a normal monitor.
              This is looking interesting. Seems there's also a 65" version

              Pity it doesnt come in 40'' or 32'...... I fear 55" working on it all day, will be like sitting watching a tennis match with your head going left to right to try and follow the action......

              Kind Regards,
              Morne

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              • #8

                I don't fear the tennis-effect as you are used to it by two screens side by side. But the new vertical component of that thing would be "interesting".
                ^Lele^ Mind sharing a photo of your desk?
                Kind regards, Wolf S./K.
                www.faber-courtial.de

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