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  • #16
    Hi Archcanvas

    you are right in the point of fast setups and great immages.

    beside of this, usualy also this program has to do the step to transform maybe internal correct and more precise calculations to a simple rgb screen, and to suggest a collor, cause screens cant display the contrast and the wavelength of nature.

    at this point each and every renderer fails, and like a photograph can decide to make immages brighter or darker, it allways depends on the artist how the immages look like.

    maxwell reaches a higher step of realism by the cost of much much much longer calculations that mostover usual people event cant see. The hype of maxwell in its realy awsome immages, cant stand the affords of usualy fast deadlines. Also we have seen by the years now that for marketing people sometimes like to see things that arent "real" for example reflections in glasses that physicaly would never be correct , or brighter interiors seen from the outside of the window inside a building that are absolutely unrealistic.

    what about the flexibility of maxwell to do fast and easy changes to a direction that customers usualy wish to get.

    maxwell disclaims a unbiased system is the only way. Well this can be an aim, but i rather have the opportunity to make my renderings fast, and vray is the hell faster than maxwell.

    nevertheless, it is good, this programm is there, so the competition also makes vray a greater product (skysystem and sunsystem .... )

    my opinion only of course

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    • #17
      Originally posted by tom schuelke
      Hi Archcanvas
      Also we have seen by the years now that for marketing people sometimes like to see things that arent "real" for example reflections in glasses that physicaly would never be correct , or brighter interiors seen from the outside of the window inside a building that are absolutely unrealistic.

      what about the flexibility of maxwell to do fast and easy changes to a direction that customers usualy wish to get.
      Yeah that's what I'm wondering about too. Clients always want some thing lighter/darker, annoying reflection caustics gone etc... In Vray you can light an interior with one tiny spotlight, without burn outs if you use some tricks, that's just not possible with maxwell (and clients don't like burn out areas!)
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      • #18
        Haven't tried maxwell, but the images on its website are VERY VERY impressive and convincing. Much like a render system for us architects... for a serious architect, correctly simulate the lighting and atmosphere during the design stage is so important, which means speed is only the third important issue (I give aesthetics second).
        I have to disagree, the speed does not come third in my opinion:

        Flexibility issue has been cover by Tom
        Just want to add: Vray is my bread and butter, what I do make my living on, I can't afford long render times, when your boss makes changes 20 minutes before his meeting, he still want a good result to show..

        Longer render times = less renders = less satisfied clients = less money for me

        I have to say that Maxwell renderings are amazing, and i'm actually working here with 2 maxwell freaks ( well, mabee not as freak as some treads on forums ) and yes, the results are there

        So: Maxwell is a really nice toy, but for everyday work, the speed/quality balance that Vray is what I need. Is one better than the other.. , matters of opinions and needs
        Alain Blanchette
        www.pixistudio.com

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        • #19
          oops, wrong quote

          I ment:


          Haven't tried maxwell, but the images on its website are VERY VERY impressive and convincing. Much like a render system for us architects... for a serious architect, correctly simulate the lighting and atmosphere during the design stage is so important, which means speed is only the third important issue (I give aesthetics second)


          sorry
          Alain Blanchette
          www.pixistudio.com

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          • #20
            Currently Maxwell is on test, I wait that some companies use it for their production.
            Maxwell produces very impressive images but the cost is high, you need to buy a Cray if you want a good render time.

            For me, fight between VRay & Maxwell (or others renderers) with pages of tests is useless. Customers will decide which is the best.

            So wait & see
            In teapots we trust.

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            • #21
              Tom, immage is spelled image, and collor is spelled color.
              :P
              cheers
              Dmitry Vinnik
              Silhouette Images Inc.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Tog
                ... you need to buy a Cray if you want a good render time....
                Heh... isn't the cray quite slow compared to todays high-end computers?
                Signing out,
                Christian

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                • #23
                  yeah, get with the now

                  what you need is a IBM BlueGene/L
                  :P

                  but a Cray X1E is no slouch...
                  Eric Boer
                  Dev

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