What would you price this job at? (7 houses on a new development plot).

[JezUK]

I'm 90% retired out of 3D, yet I still do get inquiries and this one came in last week so I quoted on it (I haven't done any 3D work for over a year, but I still have all the software and hardware and websites, so I was up for it, it looked easy enough).

Full Disclosuer: I didn't get the job - the prospect told me I was way more expensive than anybody else (he wouldn't tell me by how much but he certainly gave me the impression that I was way, way off).

So..... coupled with the fact that I haven't been doing them for some time, maybe it's true and I'm just simply out of touch on pricing.

So, could you guys say what you reckon you'd price this at?

(I'll tell you the price I gave at the end of this survey )

Many thanks.

Requirement was ONE CGI from above showing the entire development plot of new houses from above - so everything in that site plan and whatever you think would work outside of that perimeter.

PS - There are some things that are not on those drawings that for sure they'd need (like paths to the front door, patios etc) so those sorts of things would need to be factored in (I guess).

PPS - 3DS Max, V-Ray and Photoshop etc.

Many thanks.

[fixeighted]

I don't do too many of these either these days, though also had one come in from a client I hadn't heard from for almost 6 years.
I think they don't like my prices either lol....many cheapskates around recently. Good luck to them but I refuse to work for monkey snacks

Anyway...hmmm...3 simple house types basically, some landscaping. Depending on how high the angle is you could get away with quite simple detail.
I'd say the simplest/cheapest would be around 800 quid.

[glorybound]

I do these all day long. Tiny houses like those would cost $600 per house, and you have three of them. He'll get a view of each, and I would probably charge him a little more for the birds-eye.

I follow a guy on IG who always posts these poorly done renderings with the Fiverr watermark on them (I guess he does pay for the work he hires for). He reached out to me and asked me to quote a house, which I did, and he said I was ridiculous. I mentioned that he hires people from Fiverr, and I can't compete with them on price, but I will produce something far better for him.

[JezUK]

I don't do too many of these either these days, though also had one come in from a client I hadn't heard from for almost 6 years.
I think they don't like my prices either lol....many cheapskates around recently. Good luck to them but I refuse to work for monkey snacks

Anyway...hmmm...3 simple house types basically, some landscaping. Depending on how high the angle is you could get away with quite simple detail.
I'd say the simplest/cheapest would be around 800 quid.

Thanks Fixeighted. Are you saying £800 is the price you'd do that one overhead CGI at, or what you'd imagine was the price he got it for? (sorry, nit picking I know, it's just that I was so blown away by this dude's reaction I thought I need to investigate )

[JezUK]

I do these all day long. Tiny houses like those would cost $600 per house, and you have three of them. He'll get a view of each, and I would probably charge him a little more for the birds-eye.

I follow a guy on IG who always posts these poorly done renderings with the Fiverr watermark on them (I guess he does pay for the work he hires for). He reached out to me and asked me to quote a house, which I did, and he said I was ridiculous. I mentioned that he hires people from Fiverr, and I can't compete with them on price, but I will produce something far better for him.

So Bobby, you're saying your price for the overhead CGI would be around $2000 / £1500 (no single property CGIs needed)?

[Pixelcon]

Were the models supplied? Landscape plan supplied? Aerial photography required or full 3D?

[glorybound]

So Bobby, you're saying your price for the overhead CGI would be around $2000 / £1500 (no single property CGIs needed)?

I would quote $600 per house, and that would get them a view of each house, and I would charge extra for the birds-eye (30%). If they just wanted the birds-eye, then $600 per house and they would get the one view.

[fixeighted]

I considered it to be doable for 800 GBP purely as it's an aerial view, so possible to greatly simplify the geo of the already very simple
houses. I base everything on my day rate, so that sounds about right.
I'd make sure they know what they're getting and that they can't suddenly ask for split, more traditional angles after the fact

[suzanne_doherty]

When I was freelancing, I'd say about 3 day. The houses look very simple, as does the landscape. Plus you're not going to see any detail on the models.

Maybe 3 days is max actually, but you've gotta price the client. The drawings have zero creativity, are literally boxes with roofs, so you're not dealing with a high-end client.

In all honesty, I could probably knock something out that's respectable in a day, then add a 1/2 day for wiggle room, management, invoicing.

Dean

[JezUK]

Were the models supplied? Landscape plan supplied? Aerial photography required or full 3D?

No models supplied, no landscape plan provided, but for sure it’d need more than just grass shown in site plan. Full 3D.


Dean, one day for me would be absolutely impossible.

[DCHA34]

For information, I produced this view from just this 2D DWG in 3 days.

[glorybound]

When I quote, I have a per diem that I don't go under. If I am not making that per day, I am not taking the job.

[fixeighted]

For information, I produced this view from just this 2D DWG in 3 days.

Yeah that's fine for that I reckon, as it's lacking in a lot of what is normally a hassle here - i.e. brickwork.
Did they notice the dodgy tiles on the foreground house?

[fixeighted]

When I quote, I have a per diem that I don't go under. If I am not making that per day, I am not taking the job.

Well yes eactly; that is how I price everything. I assess how long I think it'll take and apply my daily rate to that. In all these years I have rarely been
very far from that which I quoted.

The problem these days is that it absolutely takes less time to go from brief to finished output, simply due to tech advances and the vast range of ready-made assets available.
It may be tough to swallow but it means that output is both better and quicker to produce, irritatingly meaning lowered income.

[glorybound]

Well yes eactly; that is how I price everything. I assess how long I think it'll take and apply my daily rate to that. In all these years I have rarely been
very far from that which I quoted.

The problem these days is that it absolutely takes less time to go from brief to finished output, simply due to tech advances and the vast range of ready-made assets available.
It may be tough to swallow but it means that output is both better and quicker to produce, irritatingly meaning lowered income.

Or you have gotten better. The daily per diem isn't always the best way; we add more value the more experience we have. If you are twice as fast as five years ago, you rob yourself and need to raise your per diem. My per diem is my absoute minimum. I was a little slow the first of the year, so I took my minimum; it was a per-day project, so it worked. But now I am busy, and the guy wants an earlier rate.