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    Hi,

    I need a very powerful pc, preferably with 4 or more cpu's. Is one dual core cpu as fast as two single cores? Does a dual dual core system exist? Or then maybe a quad dual core system

    I get lost in all the different stuff on the net, and it is very urgent. Money doesn't really matter btw ( to a certain extent of coure).

    Can anyone point me in the right directon for this?

    The problem is that the pc needs to run a program over 8 screens. We already have two graphics cards with 4 outputs each, but now it seems the cpu power is the limiting factor. A dual xeon system wasn't enough so I'm looking for much much more powerfull!

    Then another question, while I'm at it Anyone know what is the most important factor for sliding large images in flash, is it the cpu or the graphics card?

    Thanks for any help,

    wouter
    Aversis 3D | Download High Quality HDRI Maps | Vray Tutorials | Free Texture Maps

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    yes. dual dual core exists. i have one here. dual 5140. very very fast, renders in 32bit windows twice as fast as my dual 3ghz zeon sitting next to it.

    mmmm now for the renderfarm, maybe oneday.

    as for quad, not sure. dont think they have made a quad board yet for dual cores. but you can get amd quad with dual core. check boxx.
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    • #3
      @ unknown,

      I am think of upgrading my dual xeon (2.33ghz), would you mind giving couple of specs on your setup,

      I havent looked too deeply at systems since I put that one together so I gotta go off and do the whole research thingy again...

      Thanks
      Tom
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      • #4
        we recently switched workstations to dual opteron 265..pretty darn fast. eats the previous dual xeons easily...rendertimes are cut in HALF (literally)..

        Thorsten

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        • #5
          Hi thorsten, opteron 265, is that also a dual core thing?

          I'm also interested in full specs of thorstens and 'unknowns' system. Like which motherboard, etc...

          Thanks,

          wouter
          Aversis 3D | Download High Quality HDRI Maps | Vray Tutorials | Free Texture Maps

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          • #6
            yes it's dualcore

            Dual-Core AMD Opteron™ Processor 265 1.8Ghz Socket 940

            I'm running it on an Asus K8N-DL Board with 4GB of Dualchannel DDR ram and a Geforce 7950 GX2
            The nice thing about those DualCore opterons is that they are also 64bit, so i run 32bitXP now, but i can switch as soon as all drivers etc are available (currently running dualboot for testing)

            Regards,
            Thorsten

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            • #7
              the quad dual core system is being sold by boxx technologies. however i believe windows XP cant handle 8 processors so your limited to server OS's

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              • #8
                This seems to be a good solid option for your needs.

                http://www.apple.com/macpro/
                Jon Reynolds
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                • #9
                  why dont they just drop the whole mac thing. its an apple PC is what it is. you can purchase those parts normally and build the system at way less than apple is selling it for im betting

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                  • #10
                    We currently have some dual dualcore 2.8GHz Xeons, running XP64 with 4 gigs of RAM for our renderfarm. Compared to my (singlecore) Dual 3.6 Xeon, they are blazing fast. Frames for a V-Raydirt pass were running around 9 minutes when rendered locally, and just a little more than 5 minutes on the renderfarm.

                    As for running 8 screens... *shrug* never done it!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Da_elf
                      why dont they just drop the whole mac thing. its an apple PC is what it is. you can purchase those parts normally and build the system at way less than apple is selling it for im betting
                      No way - that's cheaper than you could build it yourself, I've looked... okay I stand slightly corrected. You can go on Dell's website and spec the same exact system - at least $1000 more. Also worth it if you need to do compositing (now that Shake is only $500). The 5150's alone are $730 each from Newegg. Just don't buy their memory upgrades, they rip you off there a bit.

                      Build-your-own MacPro:
                      $1460 - Dual 5150's
                      $340 - cheapest Tyan motherboard
                      $120 - memory
                      +hard drives, graphics, and an SSI-EEB compatible case and power supply. About $2500. And, like the MacPro, you still need to buy a license of XP... but with the MacPro you get some pretty good OSX software with it.

                      I think the current top-of-the-line dual-core, dual-proc workstation chips are the Intel Xeon 51xx series, and any AMD Opterons 265-285 or 865-885.

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                      • #12
                        What would be the difference between the 200 and 800 range?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by flipside
                          What would be the difference between the 200 and 800 range?
                          800's are basically the same as the 200's... the difference is:

                          200's are only scalable to dual-processor workstations, whereas the 800's can be scaled to 8-processor workstations.

                          Here's some benchmarks I've been looking at (they're for rendering in Modo, so as long as you look at the ones running Windows XP they should scale similarly using Max/Vray), just click on the buttons for the scene render times on the left:
                          http://www.vertexmonkey.com/benchmark_intro.php

                          As a side note to your problem, maybe there's a way to genlock and gang a few PC's together to run it across 8 screens? http://www.ventuz.com/ they have this one installation showcased http://www.ventuz.com/solutions/show...6_fujitsu.aspx where they ran a single presentation at a resolution of 71680 x 768 across 56 plasma screens with 23 workstations.

                          Also, is this a render-on-the-fly Flash-type video, or a prerendered video?

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                          • #14
                            i would save avoid sliding large images in flash 'realtime'...not sure this is still valid though.

                            prerender if its possible.

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                            • #15
                              My new home computer is a core 2 duo 2.4 Ghz and is a bit faster that my dual xeon 3.2 Ghz.
                              Daniel Santana | Co-Founder / Technical Director
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