Vista seems to be a bad idea right now....

[cpnichols]

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/...sta/page6.html

[ShaunDon]

Ugh, that's depressing. It certainly lends credence to my sneaking suspicion that Microsoft is mostly colluding with computer manufacturers in releasing a massively inefficient OS just so the majority of users who only word process and watch YouTube will still need new hardware to do so.

I really would love to be excited about Vista. But it's just scary.

Shaun

[percydaman]

funny how they advertise vista on the same page as they're showing incredibly bad benchmarks. I already was intending on NOT getting vista for many reasons. This is just another.

[DaForce]

Mmm doesnt look so good.
Although I would suggest everyone take anything from that site with a large grain of salt.
Not the most reliable source of information in the world.

[Sawyer]

so the majority of users who only word process and watch YouTube will still need new hardware to do so.
Shaun

Thats a really good point. Really most people don't need new computers. Gamers do and we do. Most people need computers that will not break and I would think there is a point where the hardware will be mature. Not for us we will need new machines until we have real time renderings but most people hell even most gamers will have a limit that will be reached years before we have reached ours. And if you find an OS that you like you could just keep that.

[studioDIM]

Mmm doesnt look so good.
Although I would suggest everyone take anything from that site with a large grain of salt.
Not the most reliable source of information in the world.

Very very true.
One thing that came to mind reading through was that they never quite mentioned the bad side of "superfetch", which is memory consumption without the user knowing any better.
Just a glorified "office fast start", or "acrobat launcher": half (or in the case of vista, all?) the code in memory, even if for the day i don't want to run max.
NO chance in hell for me. Vista's definitely a no-go.

Lele

[DaForce]

And for those of you who dont know. Effective idle memory usage is over 800mb with aero on.
With IE open and autoupdate open.. I was kissing the scary side of 1GB memory usage.

[RErender]

I'm not planning on buying Vista any time soon and I didn't read the article so I don't know if they mentioned that those benchmarks are all openGL which Vista only emulates. I imagine that when the Directx 10 patch comes out for Max that the DirectX performance will be pretty good. Both ATI and NVidia are said to be writing their own OpenGL flavors for Vista, then the performance should be normal.

[vlado]

Well, if you consider that SPECviewperf measures viewport performance under OpenGL specifically, which is not supported under Vista and so probably software emulation is used instead, these numbers are quite normal.

On the rendering benchmark, Vista actually performed slightly faster than XP.

I myself have also found that as far as rendering is concerned, the speed difference between XP and Vista is negligible.

This is for rendering, of course. As far as I can see almost all other benchmarks show poorer results under Vista.

Best regards,
Vlado

[marco]

Wait until the next version of 3dsmax, the only supported OS will probably be Vista, and then we will all be running Vista......

[dbuchhofer]

yea but 2 days later this article was pushed: http://anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2917&p=12 on the same site

[Syclone1]

well I would be inclined to trust Anandtec far more than Tom's...

[GALACTUS]

So those who are against, are you saying you are never going to switch to Vista or are you saying that at the moment you are not going to, until better drivers and support appears for that particular OS?

[percydaman]

oh will switch. but it took quite awhile for me to switch from win2k to winxp. might be as long for the switch from winxp to vista.

[GALACTUS]

I just want to switch as soon as this is out....

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/t...crysis-footage