Memory Lane

[deflix]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-ymK2b-yI

[glorybound]

now, that's funny! We have come a long way!

[flino2004]

those memories...D.O.S and waiting for hours like today.
at that time you have to fake everything, extra lights simulate GI, geometry to simulate fog, etc...and I thought that it was very photo realistic!! It's like seeing a photo of myself today from the 80's wearing that clothe and hair cut (WTF)

[deflix]

those memories...D.O.S and waiting for hours like today.
at that time you have to fake everything, extra lights simulate GI, geometry to simulate fog, etc...and I thought that it was very photo realistic!! It's like seeing a photo of myself today from the 80's wearing that clothe and hair cut (WTF)

Actually I loved those days - I used Lightscape but sadly Autodesk have scrubbed pretty much any trace of that software from the web so I cant find any decent examples except this article - http://www.maxinkcafe.com/constructi...s&tutorialid=9

Despite being extremely fussy with the input geometry it was great to have an OpenGL model in LS solution mode, and move around it in real-time, whilst iterating different solutions. I still wish we could have a similar approach in Vray, rather than the image bound pipeline which is standard these days. Being able to iterate a quasi-baked-render-to-texture scene or model, and then perform a beauty pass from any angle is real power, especially if integrated with a rasterization engine for realtime output. Considering LS could whip out a decent gi solution of an average scene in around 20 minutes on a Pentium 133mhz is worth bearing in mind when considering how far we have come.

This approach would compliment the current crop of fast PT renderers nicely with a powerful biased approach for maximum control.

[instinct]

And it already came with light leaks!

http://www.cgtechniques.com/tutorials/lightscape.php

[deflix]

And it already came with light leaks!

http://www.cgtechniques.com/tutorials/lightscape.php

yes it was very tricky to make a gi renderer with real-time output given available hardware at the time; progressive refinement was very fussy with the Geometry due to meshing/memory limits - no coincident verts etc..
This is to be expected for what started as a research project at Cornell that was wiped from the scene without any development by Autodesk.

Ive seen that tut anyway and its pretty lame tbh - there were all sorts of cool techniques for creating better solutions then that but very few people actually used LS properly due to the steep learning curve.
These examples I did in the 90s had both natural and artificial light and converged with very few artifacts

[deflix]

the exterior lighting model was quite effective from memory.

[samuel_bubat]

Actually I loved those days - I used Lightscape but sadly Autodesk have scrubbed pretty much any trace of that software from the web so I cant find any decent examples except this article - http://www.maxinkcafe.com/constructi...s&tutorialid=9

Despite being extremely fussy with the input geometry it was great to have an OpenGL model in LS solution mode, and move around it in real-time, whilst iterating different solutions. I still wish we could have a similar approach in Vray, rather than the image bound pipeline which is standard these days. Being able to iterate a quasi-baked-render-to-texture scene or model, and then perform a beauty pass from any angle is real power, especially if integrated with a rasterization engine for realtime output. Considering LS could whip out a decent gi solution of an average scene in around 20 minutes on a Pentium 133mhz is worth bearing in mind when considering how far we have come.

This approach would compliment the current crop of fast PT renderers nicely with a powerful biased approach for maximum control.

Oh it´s stil there. It was implemented in max5 alongside lightracer as "radiosity". I think only the adaptive mesh is not included.. wich was the most important
thing btw. "quick guys.. global illumination is on the horizon..let´s implement some random technologies and never touch them again".. ah yeah.. good old times...
some things never change

[flino2004]

I also love lightscape, but max DOS version 1 was a lot work to get something nice..... You can see lightscape images today and they still look very good.

[deflix]

Oh it´s stil there. It was implemented in max5 alongside lightracer as "radiosity". I think only the adaptive mesh is not included.. wich was the most important
thing btw. "quick guys.. global illumination is on the horizon..let´s implement some random technologies and never touch them again".. ah yeah.. good old times...
some things never change

Yes they did a rough approximation of LS without progressive refinement any of the other features - it was just a basic implementation of the radiosity algorithm inside max.

[glorybound]

I still have mine

[tricky]

the exterior lighting model was quite effective from memory.

I recognise those people in that first image...

[deflix]

I recognise those people in that first image...

.......

[mario74]

I recognise those people in that first image...

they all run to theyr resellers, cause the Matrox 400 was much more smoother than the hilarous fixed-frequency, which we stored in basement than

[deflix]

they all run to theyr resellers, cause the Matrox 400 was much more smoother than the hilarous fixed-frequency, which we stored in basement than

I want what you're smoking dude...