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    Hi all,

    I just contacted Zwischendrin about a Mighty Tiles Version for Max 2014 and had to hear some bad news.

    Apparently there the current Mighty Tiles version does and will not support Max 2014. The developers are working on a new version so people who want to use Mighty Tiles with Max 2014 will have to buy the new version when it's out.

    I have just recently bought Mighty Tiles and have only used it once so I am more than annoyed about their (lack of) customer support.

    This is all the more frustrating since most Max 2013 plugins work with Max 2014 without problems but since you can't choose the installation path for Mighty Tiles there is no way of finding out if it is.

    Anyone one else with me on that one?
    Stefanie

    https://renderkitchen.com/

  • #2
    Thanks for the heads up. I spend a lot of money on assets, but I rarely waste my resources on 3rd party plugins, for this very reason.
    Bobby Parker
    www.bobby-parker.com
    e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
    phone: 2188206812

    My current hardware setup:
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    • #3
      You could install it for 3ds Max 2013 and then copy the files over to the 3ds Max 2014 plugins folder and see what happens.

      Best regards,
      Vlado
      I only act like I know everything, Rogers.

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      • #4
        Hi Vlado,

        thanks for the great idea. Sadly it doesn't work though.

        @glorybound: I do have quite a few third party plugins and with most of them upgrading 3DS Max has never been an issue. Solidrocks, Railclone, Forest Pro, Batzal Roof Designer are all great when it comes to customer support. I guess it's smart to wait for feedback on customer support before purchasing a plugin. It's a shame though as Mighty Tiles would have been useful to have
        Stefanie

        https://renderkitchen.com/

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        • #5
          Solidrocks has always been great! I do have Batzal Roof, but I haven't used it in a long time. Multiscatter's support is hideous, but it is working in 2014. I have heard great things about Itoo, so Forest pro and Railclone are on my to get list.
          Bobby Parker
          www.bobby-parker.com
          e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
          phone: 2188206812

          My current hardware setup:
          • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
          • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
          • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 X2
          • ​Windows 11 Pro

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          • #6
            Considering the cost of the plugin that is pretty shameful support, given that it DOES work with 2014...

            I can't remember exactly how I did it now but I think I just moved the folders etc. over from 2013, then placed these two files in the Max 2014 root directory:

            http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/69255869/TilesQT.rar.html

            If it doesn't work for you let me know and I will look again into how I got it to work.

            I certainly will think twice about purchasing the new plugin from them, based on the assumption it may only work with the current version of Max.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Paul Roberts
              On its release, MightyTile’s predecessor Brix was the only plugin of its kind, however since disappearing other products have tried to fill the gap. Similar results can be achieved with a combination of Jerry Ylilammi’s MultiMap and Bercon Tiles, albeit with a substantially more complex shader network requiring 5 separate MultiMaps to achieve the same result.

              Since MightyTiles’ relaunch, Martin Jann (the other Brix developer) released Walls and Tiles, using the same principles as Jerry Ylilammi, but swapping the MultiMap component for his own CrossMaps plugin and adding the ability to control all 5 maps from a single interface. In some areas these address some of MightyTiles’ shortcomings, both for example allow herringbone patterns, and Walls and Tiles automatically loads maps.

              However neither of these solutions have the elegance and ease-of-use of MightyTiles. The ability to tilt bricks, the mosaic mode, procedural mortar, the tile designer and library are just a few of the features unique to this plugin, making it the most fully-featured currently available.

              It’s not perfect, the tile designer badly needs the ability to auto-load bitmaps and there’s a niggling crash when using image-based colour control in the Slate editor. Over the period that I have been reviewing this software Dr. Dieter Finkenzeller has been actively responding to users and ironing out bugs promising to fix both these issues in a future release.

              Were it the only plugin of this type on the market MightyTiles would be an indispensable purchase; even with free and cheaper alternatives the plugin’s unbeatable feature set makes it a highly recommended addition for anyone involved in architectural visualisation.
              Review of MightyTiles on Max Underground

              I'm with Bobby, it is a good idea to limit how much one relies on 3rd party plugins unless the developer has a squeaky clean track record, otherwise that tool may become a hindrance. If the upgrade cost is not excessive, then it does seem to still be the best tool available for what it does.
              Ben Steinert
              pb2ae.com

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              • #8
                A reminder that Mighty Tiles is the same product they originally sold as BRIX and dropped the support for "personal reasons" or some such, leaving all the customers hangin when new versions of Max came out and the newly bought plugin did not work. It is literally the exact same product in pretty much the same condition it was originally in 2010 and even if I finally got it as a free upgrade from BRIX, it took ages and there have been no further improvements. If you haven't bought it yet it's not worth the risk in my opinion.
                Ville Kiuru
                www.flavors.me/vkiuru

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                • #9
                  Exactly this.

                  I was really pissed with Brix when I got it, because, after contecting materialwerk.de and asking about before purchasing, 1 day after my purchase, they sent me an email with an ad for brix on sale, 30% off of what I paid. I expect the decency to actually inform the customer when purchasing the day before, at least just for good measure and "karma".

                  Then, a few months after the 2 guys at Materialwerk started fighting and got a divorce, screwing everyone who bought Brix. They rarely answered emails asking about what was happening.

                  When I heard about Mightytiles, and found out who made it I was incredibly suspicious, but I got the offer of a free license because of the Brix debacle.

                  Then, happily upgrading to max 2014, Mighty tiles was the only 2013-plugin that didn't work, and after contacting them several times, I got an answer from someone not responsible for development, stating that the Developer was away at PAX or some event and that he had ditched Mightytiles, to reinvent it in a new and improved "mightytiles" that was soooo much better......but would mean a completely new product and purchase.
                  Guess he doesn't like his paying customers much, and thinks reputations are overrated.

                  Does anyon have any experience with the other original party from Materialwerk? The guys ho now makes WallTiles or what its called?
                  Last edited by trixian; 24-06-2013, 06:02 AM. Reason: adendum
                  Signing out,
                  Christian

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by trixian View Post
                    Does anyon have any experience with the other original party from Materialwerk? The guys ho now makes WallTiles or what its called?
                    I almost forgot. Martin Jann, the guy who is behind Walls&Tiles and who is the other half of the original BRIX couple, is actively developing his plugin - and what has been left unadvertised is the fact that Vizpark offers W&T free for anyone who was a BRIX purchaser. At least this was the case when I was in contact with him last week. The plugin is pretty much MightyTiles without all the hassle! Contact him if you own a license to BRIX!
                    Ville Kiuru
                    www.flavors.me/vkiuru

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                    • #11
                      I bought a Mighty Tiles license 2 or 3 months ago, if this of the new product/new purchase is true i would be really dissapointed....!! too bad

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by trixian View Post
                        Exactly this.
                        When I heard about Mightytiles, and found out who made it I was incredibly suspicious, but I got the offer of a free license because of the Brix debacle.

                        Then, happily upgrading to max 2014, Mighty tiles was the only 2013-plugin that didn't work, and after contacting them several times, I got an answer from someone not responsible for development, stating that the Developer was away at PAX or some event and that he had ditched Mightytiles, to reinvent it in a new and improved "mightytiles" that was soooo much better......but would mean a completely new product and purchase.
                        Guess he doesn't like his paying customers much, and thinks reputations are overrated.
                        I'm pretty sure Ronen Bekerman was involved with Mighty Tiles so maybe he could explain what's going on with it?

                        Martin Jann (now Vizpark) was the other guy originally involved with Brix, more on the sales side I think though. Vizpark now sell the Walls and Tiles plugin and as someone else mentioned, it's free to previous Brix customers. It might be a better route to go down if the Mightytiles developer is being flaky.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ramsay View Post
                          I'm pretty sure Ronen Bekerman was involved with Mighty Tiles so maybe he could explain what's going on with it?

                          Martin Jann (now Vizpark) was the other guy originally involved with Brix, more on the sales side I think though. Vizpark now sell the Walls and Tiles plugin and as someone else mentioned, it's free to previous Brix customers. It might be a better route to go down if the Mightytiles developer is being flaky.
                          Ronen Bekerman advertised the original BRIX version of the plugin and had more than enough knowledge to know things weren't right later on yet he has no problem being the spokesperson for this "new" plugin. I hate being rude but this is ridiculous and the people involved have some moral issues.
                          Ville Kiuru
                          www.flavors.me/vkiuru

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                          • #14
                            Hello everyone,


                            I´d like to jump in to show my presence and offer any help to owners of BRIX or owners of Mighty Tiles left behind without support. I´m here ... I´ll try to answer direct support requests within 24 hours, mostly much faster and the Walls & Tiles plugin with installer for 2014 is out since over a month.


                            And again, I also always offered free crossgrades to Walls & Tiles Complete for owners of BRIX and still offer these.


                            Additionally I´m now offering a 50% crossgrade for NEW owners of Mighty Tiles to either Walls & Tiles Complete (75 Euros instead of 149 Euros) or Walls & Tiles (29,50 Euros instead of 59 Euros)!
                            Just drop me an email to martin@vizpark.com

                            Hopefully this helps anyone looking for a tiles solution now.

                            PS: Just as a side note, I´d like to clarify that I was the original inventor of BRIX (in the sense of having the idea for the plugin and writing the product specification back in 200

                            Best,
                            Martin
                            ---
                            About VIZPARK - www.vizpark.com

                            VIZPARK is a Autodesk authorized developer of 3Ds max plugins and high quality 3D models for professional 3D artists.

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                            • #15
                              its a bit of a scam
                              i dont trust these plug ins that get er plugged on ron berkman

                              i will be checking out that walls and tiles plugin though thanks for teh heads up

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