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  • #16
    Originally posted by glorybound View Post
    Maybe, that's why our industry is a little wonky, no standards.
    But the point Neil is making is that that charging per second doesn't make any sense as it's a variable, not a constant.

    I'm just repeating what everyone else has said but basically, saying "how much should I charge per second?" is like saying "how much should I charge per pixel" - there *is* a correlation, i.e. more pixels = larger image = (theoretically) longer to create, but it's a terrible yardstick for to gauge your fees by.

    Imagine if you quote $100 per second for a 30 second fly-through, but the client decides the camera move is too quick and wants to make it 60 seconds. Would you really bill them and extra $3000 for changing a couple of values?
    MDI Digital
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    • #17
      Work how long it will take you and calculate the fee from your hourly rate.

      Asking how much to charge per second is the same as asking how much to charge for an architectural still - it depends on what is required!

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      • #18
        For stills, I can give a range, without an issue. Typically, I give a range for an average scene. There is a low end and an high end.
        Originally posted by DJH View Post
        Work how long it will take you and calculate the fee from your hourly rate.

        Asking how much to charge per second is the same as asking how much to charge for an architectural still - it depends on what is required!
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        • #19
          these are the guys that I am talking too.

          http://www.constructioninstruction.c...attic-assembly

          They do these construction animations.
          Bobby Parker
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          • #20
            Originally posted by AJ Jefferies View Post
            Imagine if you quote $100 per second for a 30 second fly-through, but the client decides the camera move is too quick and wants to make it 60 seconds. Would you really bill them and extra $3000 for changing a couple of values?
            I would...an extra 30 seconds on a render farm on a average 1hr frame will be just as much.
            "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
            Thomas A. Edison

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            • #21
              But twice the render time != double the work for the entire project.
              MDI Digital
              moonjam

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              • #22
                We rarely bill for render time, that's nuts. you bill for building the scenes, and doing the actual work that takes time - the overhead to cover rent and bills and profit should also cover running the farm.

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                • #23
                  Well, if you go to any of the major render farm sites they have a calculator to produce a quote for cpu time. I use this calculator to show my client - look this is what it would cost you to render at a farm like this, and typically give a slightly lesser rate to make them feel happy.
                  Dmitry Vinnik
                  Silhouette Images Inc.
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                  • #24
                    I recently completed some work and didn't get the ridiculous 6000px request until it was done. It cost me an extra $200 to render out the 5 stills. Had I known, I would have charged extra.
                    Bobby Parker
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