Chaos group buying out corona!

[mitviz]

idk if this is good or bad, will the nice prices for corona stay the same? haha, hey just saw it
https://www.facebook.com/d2conferenc...8213080369213/

[lukx]

I just wanted to buy Corona after testing it for some time. Its quality of light and responsiveness is fantastic...

[^Lele^]

Well, what's stopping you?

[vlado]

idk if this is good or bad

It's good

will the nice prices for corona stay the same?

Yes, the prices stay the same.

Best regards,
Vlado

[mitviz]

It's good

Yes, the prices stay the same.

Best regards,
Vlado

Funny thing is months ago when i raised the corona topic me and a friend laughed saying i bet vray will become like corona in more ways or buy them out!!! When i saw the announcement on fb it was just too funny, so now vlado has to admit, he hasnt been using vray to render since he tested corona haha just messing man

[mitviz]

Also vlado, i hear of a possible name change to Vrona or Coray, if this is true, dang

[vlado]

Also vlado, i hear of a possible name change to Vrona or Coray, if this is true, dang

They both sound horrible, don't they... Luckily no such thing is planned and they will stay V-Ray and Corona

Best regards,
Vlado

[sherridge101]

Would be cool to see Corona's Bloom and Glare and tonemapping over in the VFB.

[chris-x//]

I just wanted to buy Corona after testing it for some time. Its quality of light and responsiveness is fantastic...

I have switched all my interiors to Corona, it's an amazing piece of software, lightmixes, multi region etc save me hours of work. I love Vray but I've found Corona to suit my workflow better.
This is great news. Like I said on facebook it's like if Nintendo was merging with Sega back in the 90's, we'll get the best of both

[^Lele^]

I think one of the things that is going amiss from the users' perspective is often scale.

We wouldn't get to 250 people, including all the ancillary, and very important, functions, if we polled the numbers together.
This is still a very familiar endeavor, with extremely direct channels to all the key people from the outside in.
There is no layer between the decision makers and the users, unlike in *much* bigger operations.
Proof of it is in the post two before this one: how much closer to the fire can one get?

Doubt is free and allowed, however we ought to keep in mind the very important details of this operation, for therein will lie all and any of the differences with what has come to pass before.
If Chaos wanted people's money so badly, trust me on this, they could have extorted it in many a creative way, many times over, by now.
And yet we have 15 years of history saying a license is paid at the time of a major release, and the money is returned back with the bonus of three to four years of updates, and performance boosts.
In the same timeframe, one could instead observe what others did, to both their products and quality thereof, and their ways of interacting with the users, and of getting to the users' wallets.
If that comparison isn't soothing, i don't know what could be...

[Nicinus]

I've been fiddling with Vray for over a decade, and if there is one thing I feel does not apply to Chaos Group, it is greed. Regardless of their relatively new render node policy, which I can't judge as I don't have that size of an operation, the software really remains a bargain compared to almost all other tools in my arsenal.

However, from a purely personal standpoint, the development speed in terms of workflow and general elegance is a different matter. As one of the smartest and most technically astute individuals in the industry I don't think Vlado fully understands the need for simplicity, quite frankly because I don't think he is interested in it. I guess when it is all clear to you, technical clutter becomes less obstructive. I see a different approach in Corona as something that could be very complementary, although there is no doubt in my mind that the products long term needs more differentiation than that. I can't think of any products from the same company where one isn't the clear big brother or they serve different market segments.

[flino2004]

Is there any plan to combine the licenses for both engines?* Universal license)....how about the direction of them... Corona focus on architectural visualisation and vray for everything else?

[vlado]

As one of the smartest and most technically astute individuals in the industry I don't think Vlado fully understands the need for simplicity, quite frankly because I don't think he is interested in it. I guess when it is all clear to you, technical clutter becomes less obstructive.

You got me there

Is there any plan to combine the licenses for both engines?

Is this something that you would be interested in?

Corona focus on architectural visualisation and vray for everything else?

A while ago the Corona guys have made it clear that they want Corona to be the best archviz renderer on the market, so I guess they have picked a direction already. Of course, a renderer needs to do many other things as well (hair, volumes, skin etc). Eventually I think it will depend on the users and what they want from the products, and what makes sense from an implementation point of view.

Best regards,
Vlado

[^Lele^]

As one of the smartest and most technically astute individuals in the industry I don't think Vlado fully understands the need for simplicity, quite frankly because I don't think he is interested in it. I guess when it is all clear to you, technical clutter becomes less obstructive.

Ah, you mean you didn't know about the internal communication at Chaos Group being exclusively based on special integrals and third-order derivatives?
We use neither English nor Bulgarian, at all.
Makes for definite savings when converting it to code.
I'm sure the RL guys will get used to that change soon enough...

[flino2004]

Is this something that you would be interested in?

Yes, I Think many people here would like that...I use Vray for architectural visualization and Corona does very good job there because of the simplicity of the settings, on the other hand, I love Vray but if they are now part of the same family as a user and depending on the direction that Chaos Group wants to take for Vray I would consider being on the Corona side. That decision is only because Chaos Group now owns Corona.