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    What sizes do you guys render out for proofs and what are your typical final deliverables for stills? Some scenes I see for benchmarks, or scenes I purchase to study, are usually set up to render really small. I usually send full resolution 4K proofs and that is usually my final outputs. What's your process?
    Bobby Parker
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    Most of my customers are printing so I use a print aspect ratio. For final output I provide 8 megapixels 3264 x 2448 and tell them it's adequate for 8.5x11 printing. I ask them to let me know if they they are printing larger. I provide drafts at 3 megapixels 2048x1536. If it's for a product brochure I'll often send full resolution drafts after the first go around.

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    • #3
      Okay, 4k seems to be 8 megapixels, so we are on the same page there. Your aspect ratio seems a little old school. I am rendering out wider (HDTV), so they look more modern.
      Last edited by glorybound; 02-03-2018, 11:24 AM.
      Bobby Parker
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      • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
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      • #4
        I have never had anyone want more then 4K, so it seems to be the sweet spot.
        Bobby Parker
        www.bobby-parker.com
        e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
        phone: 2188206812

        My current hardware setup:
        • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
        • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
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        • ​Windows 11 Pro

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        • #5
          Originally posted by glorybound View Post
          Okay, 4k seems to be 8 megapixels, so we are on the same page there. Your aspect ratio seems a little old school. I am rendering out wider (HDTV), so they look more modern.
          I think it depends on whether it's for print or not. Most of my customers use desktop printers at 8.5x11 with an aspect of 4:3. If I use an aspect of 16:9 it leaves blank space on the page. All of my customers that are creating product brochures ask for 8.5x11 300 dpi. It's probably just what their used to. I'f I'm doing animation I use 16:9.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by arobbert View Post

            I think it depends on whether it's for print or not. Most of my customers use desktop printers at 8.5x11 with an aspect of 4:3. If I use an aspect of 16:9 it leaves blank space on the page. All of my customers that are creating product brochures ask for 8.5x11 300 dpi. It's probably just what their used to. I'f I'm doing animation I use 16:9.
            I see, makes sense.
            Bobby Parker
            www.bobby-parker.com
            e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
            phone: 2188206812

            My current hardware setup:
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            • #7
              Originally posted by glorybound View Post
              I have never had anyone want more then 4K, so it seems to be the sweet spot.
              Except printers who always want a higher resolution - "I'm printing a banner and I need it at 4'x5' at 300dpi."

              I usually provide something in the neighborhood of 3840x2560 for finals and 1920x1280 for progress images.

              www.dpict3d.com - "That's a very nice rendering, Dave. I think you've improved a great deal." - HAL9000... At least I have one fan.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dlparisi View Post
                Except printers who always want a higher resolution - "I'm printing a banner and I need it at 4'x5' at 300dpi."

                I usually provide something in the neighborhood of 3840x2560 for finals and 1920x1280 for progress images.
                I have been thinking of lowering my proofs to 1920X1080
                Bobby Parker
                www.bobby-parker.com
                e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                phone: 2188206812

                My current hardware setup:
                • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                • #9
                  I use a primarily 3x2 aspect ratio. That's the aspect ration that my digital slr shoots at and I often use that for site photograph/backplate. It looks more like a photo because it is matching into a photo Maybe? 16:9 does look more moderen but it's a video/tv ratio I think.

                  I did 3000 x 2000 for years and sometime do 1500 x 1000 proofs but usually just send the full res. I'm now starting to bump it up to 3800 x 2533 so I can say 4K and "Ultra HD" when asked.
                  mark f.
                  openrangeimaging.com

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                  • #10
                    3800 X 2533 is an aspect ratio of 1.5, which is almost the same as dlparisi's.
                    Bobby Parker
                    www.bobby-parker.com
                    e-mail: info@bobby-parker.com
                    phone: 2188206812

                    My current hardware setup:
                    • Ryzen 9 5900x CPU
                    • 128gb Vengeance RGB Pro RAM
                    • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
                    • ​Windows 11 Pro

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                    • #11
                      If not specified, I do 4K finals, with drafts lower quality and varied in resolution depending on time frames available.

                      One of my larger clients however, insists on 2 rounds of drafts before the "final". All 3 rounds should be 5.6K final high quality
                      Kind Regards,
                      Morne

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                      • #12
                        When I talk to customers I often specify resolution in megapixels so that it relates better to cameras. Most people are familiar with that terminology because of their phone or camera. At the end of the day it's best to know how the image will be used and tailor the output for that. If it's for screen display 16:9 is the best in my opinion. Print and screen? Maybe something half way. Printers always say 300 dpi, ha ha.

                        I love it when a customer asks for poster size and says the printer told them it needs to be 300 dpi!
                        Last edited by arobbert; 02-03-2018, 05:50 PM.

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                        • #13
                          One problem with lower res drafts is that they can sometimes lead to objections when they see the higher res final. There may be details that weren't visible in the draft. When I send a "draft" they often ask if it will look "better" in the final. It's hard to explain that it depends on how much they zoom in on the image or whether they print the image. Everyone likes to be able to zoom in really close to the details or send it to the printer with no understanding of resolution. This is why I've been gradually increasing the size of my drafts. I often think I should just run final size images and skip the whole draft thing

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by arobbert View Post
                            I often think I should just run final size images and skip the whole draft thing
                            I've pretty much gravitated to that for the reasons you state.

                            And like the guy Mike, in Fabios interview, I rarely send a "draft or progress version" usually only send images that are at least 98% complete.
                            mark f.
                            openrangeimaging.com

                            Max 2023.3.4 | Vray 6 update 2 | Win 10

                            Core i7 6950 | GeForce RTX 2060 | 64 G RAM

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                            • #15
                              5k normally
                              I recently had requests for 30k x 30k images at the end of the project but the models and textures (detailed flowers) didn't hold up to that and I was having issues running out of RAM and I have 128 on my blades.....
                              so i upscaled the 5k images to 30k added some noise and a bit of sharpness and they were 'amazed by the extra detail' lol

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