Vray 5

[PIXELBOX_SRO]

There as some inaccuracies and also a confusion between software licenses and content libraries licenses here.
- Content providers very commonly offer different subscription plans based on company size, yes. BUT : You don't pay more simply because you're a larger company. You also get a bunch more licenses for your money. And if you do the math (even with your maxtree example) the price per seat paid by a company is lower than what a freelancer pays.
- And the same applies for software. Very few companies actually offer indie licenses. Conversely they very often offer volume discounts... so here again the price per seat for a company is lower than what a freelancer pays.

yeah i do the math righ. I am the obly person operating such models or poaying with marvelous. Why do i need to pa more? The math clearly fails here. Paying 4000-6000 dolars for marvelous as a company where i do a few rugs or throws or curtains a year myslef and no one else while freelncer easily makes hundreds to be sold on 3dsky, gumroad etc. This system is not correct because it doesnt take into consideration the amount of seats used but company turnover.

[PIXELBOX_SRO]

clearly i must not be a serious 3d artist...nice.

sorry if you got offended its just quite unfair and really weird ppl asking in this post if a future vray will be payed upgrade or wheather it should be sold at a discounted price under indie license. Its very obvious there is a lot of effort goinng into vray. And if vray is one of your tools in your arsenal as you say, you should have next to no problem paying for a release once in 2-3 years where in fact one maybe two jobs should get you covered. On the other hand i could imagine similar type of licensing as Corona has. That should get you sorted.

[francomanko]

I really cant see how its unfair comparing individuals to companies, regardless its definitely not weird asking, especially when its asked in a post i created. Eitherway its entirely upto Chaosgroup and if you dont ask you dont get

[francomanko]

I'd be happy with the corona pricing too...whatever gets the price down for freelancers etc.

[trick]

...Paying 4000-6000 dolars for marvelous as a company where i do a few rugs or throws or curtains a year myslef and no one else...

Just out of curiosity: why don't you get a personal license then, and "sell" the stuff to your company? It is not prohibited to sell MD output! The original MD was a very expensive program intended for clothing designers, which even then had very good ROI. The cheaper individual pricing is just intended to help freelancers (whether clothing designers, visualisers or 3D content producers) simply because they expect them not to spend much (or the most, in case of 3D content) time in the software, since they certainly should have more things to do than just that! In my situation (3D Viz; both freelancing and company) the cost/ROI ratio per employee (taking into account all the relevant tools and the inescapable downtime) is FAR better in a company then working alone, simply because you just can not spread the tools over dedicated teams/people. BUT: I am not complaining about pricing....yet. Except for AD stuff

[PIXELBOX_SRO]

Thats the thing. I cant sell anything to my company from my freelance status being the company owner at the same time czech law furthermore, i dont have a workstation at home. Only in the office. So installing personal would be somewhat dodgy i guess since all the licenses installed on company hw have to be bought directly by the company. My point is that the indie license shoudl be sold on the basis of real usage and seat count rather than turnover. Really love the way Corona has it. Its perfectly fair scheme fo all.

But i dont want to steal the thread topic here... just a little rant sorry for that

[trick]

...i dont have a workstation at home...

Well, at least you have a life then....that should be worth 4-6K

[francomanko]

My point is that the indie license shoudl be sold on the basis of real usage and seat count rather than turnover. Really love the way Corona has it. Its perfectly fair scheme fo all.

I only really mentioned the turnover bit as it seems to be one way its done, I'm not clued up on the ins and outs of the business model of it all so I get your points. I just hope there will be a cheaper option and would be more than happy with the Corona pricing method.

[Neilg]

Myself i totally hate indie licences idea versus charging companies shitloads.
takea look at maxtree.org for example. Thats properly f...ing ridiculous.
marvelous, etc.
why woudl a company have to pay more when sometimes they use the particular software less than a freelancer.
totally unfair scheme the whole indie idea.

Maxtree is a different case, as they raised their prices - lele was talking about what you'd strip out to lower it.

A maxtree purchase for us just jumped from $200 to $1100. they can get fucked, it's not comparable to an indie version of vray.

[bildform]

I think the current licensing cost is totally ok. I am a bit surprised if the vfb2 is part of V-Ray 5, I was actually thinking I would be using it right now, but I guess Chaosgroup is doing so many impressive things that there is not enough time for everything.

On another note, V-Ray is more expensive than Corona. Therefore I would lat least like to have the things in V-Ray, that Corona does better (frame buffer, simple caustics, light mixer).

[theedge]

On another note, V-Ray is more expensive than Corona. Therefore I would lat least like to have the things in V-Ray, that Corona does better (frame buffer, simple caustics, light mixer).

Add to that : Corona comes with 3 render nodes included.