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    Hi,

    I'm very new at this, so maybe you could help me?

    I'm running Sketchup 8 on windows vista and the appropriate demo version of vray to go with my sketchup 8.

    I have designed a house in sketchup and I've begun rendering it in vray, the renders look absolutely stunning. For the time being I am rendering exterior scenes with HDRI. I've been creating renders for about one one and a half weeks now and I keep rendering exterior scenes because I keep adding new items in sketchup, furniture items to make the renders look even more realistic. Over the past week and a half, the sketchup file size has grown from 9.5 MB to 155 MB. 9.5 MB was without any textures, without vegetation, without the swimming pool, garden furniture and so on. 155MB includes a large swimming pool, a car, three people, two dogs, about 20 pieces of furniture and maybe 20 pieces of random models (books, laptops, smartphones, pens, notebooks, glasses, cigarettes pillows, a potted plant, a blanket and so on).

    I have a little bit of trouble while rendering the 155MB file, which means that after opening my sketchup file I can make one render which takes a little over 20 minutes, the next render I start finishes in about 2 minutes and all I get is a render of the HDRI without anything whatsoever in it. The next render does the same and so on. If I close the sketchup file and I open it again, I can once more make a good render and the next one again only renders the HDRI. Other than the huge size of my sketchup file, is there anything that might cause this issue?

    I am only rendering in 600x337 resolution as I am limited by the demo version, so the resolution shouldn't be the culprit.

    All materials in the file are vray materials, added through the materials manager in vray (except for some of the models - humans, dogs, car which I have imported into a different sketchup file to modify textures where needed and replace some of them with vray materials and then copy pasted them into my render file).

    I do not know how vray renders. When I start a render, does vray have to calculate ALL objects within the file or does it calculate only those objects that are directly visible or have directly visible effects on the current render?

    I have considered keeping the main file and creating copies of it containing less objects (as in, not having the models of the garden table and chairs from the back of the house in the file which I use to render the main entrance of the house), but I am not sure it will be efficient, since I am continuously adding more items. Also, once I get my vray licence, I would like to render hybrid scenes (as in a view from the livingroom with opened doors so that items of vegetation and the porch are visible, through the open doors as well as through the hug windows).

    Unfortunately I will not provide you with already made renders or images of my sketchup file because they don't matter. I am pretty sure that this issue is strictly related to the size of my sketchup file because I have noticed how this issue slowly appeared, after adding the pool with all its objects and so on, I would get the HDRI only render result after about 10 good renders, now it's every other render).

    Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you for your help

  • #2
    I'll bump this issue too. I'm working in SketchUP 2016 with VRay 3.0 beta version. I can render simple models, but when I try to render a large model (190Mb, in my case), Vray simply does not produce a render. I don't even get a progress bar.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kamikage View Post
      I'm running Sketchup 8 on windows vista and the appropriate demo version of vray to go with my sketchup 8.
      First, I would strongly recommend updating to SketchUp 2016. SketchUp 8 is limited to 4gb of ram which is not enough to run V-Ray efficiently.

      Originally posted by kamikage View Post
      I have designed a house in sketchup and I've begun rendering it in vray, the renders look absolutely stunning. For the time being I am rendering exterior scenes with HDRI. I've been creating renders for about one one and a half weeks now and I keep rendering exterior scenes because I keep adding new items in sketchup, furniture items to make the renders look even more realistic. Over the past week and a half, the sketchup file size has grown from 9.5 MB to 155 MB. 9.5 MB was without any textures, without vegetation, without the swimming pool, garden furniture and so on. 155MB includes a large swimming pool, a car, three people, two dogs, about 20 pieces of furniture and maybe 20 pieces of random models (books, laptops, smartphones, pens, notebooks, glasses, cigarettes pillows, a potted plant, a blanket and so on).
      I would also recommend purging regularly. A great tool is the Purge All plugin found here: http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=PurgeAll

      Originally posted by kamikage View Post
      I have a little bit of trouble while rendering the 155MB file, which means that after opening my sketchup file I can make one render which takes a little over 20 minutes, the next render I start finishes in about 2 minutes and all I get is a render of the HDRI without anything whatsoever in it. The next render does the same and so on. If I close the sketchup file and I open it again, I can once more make a good render and the next one again only renders the HDRI. Other than the huge size of my sketchup file, is there anything that might cause this issue?

      I am only rendering in 600x337 resolution as I am limited by the demo version, so the resolution shouldn't be the culprit.
      This is an old bug that is fixed in later versions of V-Ray 2.0, be sure you are running the latest version. Upgrading to SketchUp 2016 will help also alleviate this issue because this is related to limited Ram memory.


      Originally posted by kamikage View Post
      All materials in the file are vray materials, added through the materials manager in vray (except for some of the models - humans, dogs, car which I have imported into a different sketchup file to modify textures where needed and replace some of them with vray materials and then copy pasted them into my render file).

      I do not know how vray renders. When I start a render, does vray have to calculate ALL objects within the file or does it calculate only those objects that are directly visible or have directly visible effects on the current render?
      V-Ray does have to calculate all assets in a scene each time you render in 2.0.

      Originally posted by kamikage View Post
      I have considered keeping the main file and creating copies of it containing less objects (as in, not having the models of the garden table and chairs from the back of the house in the file which I use to render the main entrance of the house), but I am not sure it will be efficient, since I am continuously adding more items. Also, once I get my vray licence, I would like to render hybrid scenes (as in a view from the livingroom with opened doors so that items of vegetation and the porch are visible, through the open doors as well as through the hug windows).
      This could help, but it will become less efficient over time. I would still recommend upgrading to SketchUp 2016 and the latest V-Ray 2.0 for 2016 as well.
      Best,
      Ted Vitale
      V-Ray for SketchUp
      Product Manager | V-Ray SketchUp

      Chaos Group

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rwilkin1 View Post
        I'll bump this issue too. I'm working in SketchUP 2016 with VRay 3.0 beta version. I can render simple models, but when I try to render a large model (190Mb, in my case), Vray simply does not produce a render. I don't even get a progress bar.
        Could you share a scene where this occurs? (To share a scene go to Extensions> Export> Pack Scene) I would like to have any scene which does not render on file here to test so if you can share it that would be great! If you don't want to share it publicly on the forum, feel free to PM me with a link to the model, Drop box or any other similar file sharing service is recommended.
        Best,
        Ted Vitale
        V-Ray for SketchUp
        Product Manager | V-Ray SketchUp

        Chaos Group

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        • #5
          I'm PM you, this is for a client, and is still in progress.

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