Phoenix and new Vray Instancer

[ben_hamburg]

Hey there,

I´ve been doing R&D for quite a while now for floating particles, since I need them in almost every medical project we are doing.
So far I always just did some simple pflow setup with wind turbulence or random walk.
But for some hero shots I´d love to have the ability to make the floating particles react realistically to objects moving through them, like they were actually in a fluid.
I did some R&D with mParticles and glue operator, but that was always very slow to simulate and very...crash intense.
So I was thinking, if I could somehow utilize phoenix to help me achieve that.
So i guess I could do something with drag particles, but since I prefer my floating particles be more than just dots (I have a bunch of objects for dust such as fuzzy little pieces of hair and stuff like that), I´m wondering if there is something I could do with the new Vray Instancer...

I´m in the middle of a project right now, so I can´t do any R&D myself, just waiting for some caches at the moment and thinking out loud here...

[Ivaylo Katev]

the instancer does not support phoenix particles, they are just dots and have no orientation channel.
but how about to use the phoenix operators to drive pf particles?

[ben_hamburg]

Damn...I didn´t even realize those Operators existed...guess I´m just tooo focussed when working with Pflow...
The most interesting op would probably be the Phoenix Force operator.
Is there anything I should know about the usage before experimenting?
From what I´ve understood so far, this is what I would do:

1. Setup my Phoenix grid.
2. Simulate whatever I want to simulate (just an empty grid with air inside, maybe some objects moving through it, or some liquid if needed).
3. Setup my Pflow with birth near/ inside the grid.
4. Add Phoenix force operator to the flow.

Actually...could I in theory use this to do some fluid-to-object interaction? Like floating objects on a liquid surface?

[Ivaylo Katev]

don't forget to export the velocity