need help for tree!!

[priad]

Hi all,
I need to make a very very réalistic tree in a closer view, and with an outzoom after to see it in globaly. During this movie the leaf falling down on the ground.
I need white background and I know many thing to do that but I have a F!"#~[ deadline to do it.
I want to know what kind of approach you had to make this thing.
I know, displace bla bla....
but to modelise it I need a piece of advise do I modelise it in total or Take a plugin model (treestorm, xfrog etc...)
thanks for advise

[Morbid Angel]

if you have a close up then I would model a tree, use particle flow to ditribute the leafs (more control that way) but if the tree is not at close up then treestorm or whatever other tree plugin could be good.

[priad]

Thanks morbid angel for your quick reply.
When you speak about particular flow for the leaves how do you do????
I had try before to put leave on tree but the stern doesn't put where i wanted .
thanks

[Morbid Angel]

here is the scene where i did a very rough (basic) setup of the pflow
http://www3.telus.net/public/vinnik88/tree_setup.rar

[priad]

Big thanks morbidangel, it seems to work fine (about the stern)
I'll study it .
And to make a perfect mapping of the futur tree, did you have a tips.

[Morbid Angel]

nothing is perfect in this world...however the tree you can map using this software:
http://www.polygonal-design.fr/e_unfold/videos.htm

or, manual projections which is pain in the ass...

[priad]

ok it seems so good.
thanks
You seem to had the same problem in the past.

[Morbid Angel]

just experience

[priad]

good experience dude

[priad]

hey, Morbid Angel, unfold 3d is a revolutionary soft!
Do you use the studio version or the freelance?
I have speeking with a developper and the soft is in perpetual improving.
Great they are french
Thanks again, I will post a WIP soon.
cheers

[Morbid Angel]

Well we are working with some thing similar...unfortinantly I cant speak of this yet as its confidential and until final release its close to beta users only.
Glad it helps you.

[priad]

ok, I have buy the freelance version first.

[analogueWay]

If you don't mind spending the money, Xfrog trees make nice foreground "hero" trees. As far as commercially-available tree packages go, Xfrog looks the best (in my opinion). What you gain in appearance, though, you naturally pay for in polygon-count. You also don't have the ability to easily manipulate the trees like you do with Bionatics or Speedtree (but, when they look that good, why would you want to?).

-Jeremy

[priad]

this is the kind of tree that I want. (with the leaves of course and an exellent mapping).


I must make a closer view like this pict or near.



this is for advertizing.
So, xfrog and speed and treestorm can't help me.
thanks for the advice.

[CCS]

Why can't you do this with Onyx?