Vray GPU and 10 mil poly scenes... few questions...

[Dariusz Makowski (Dadal)]

Heya

uh ahh just curious... since the size of render doesn't matter I just wonder how will the vray GPU use the GPU memory...

Basically how much we need for 10 mil scene ?
How much for 4x4/8x8/10x10 textures...
Does jpg/png/tiff etc etc matter?
Any plans about some kind of virtual memory for gpus? If it get full, gpu will just flush and repack memory to continue render?

[tricky]

I've not much idea how the technology works, but I would imagine a huge part of the mental speed of RT GPU is the fact that it can all be loaded onto the graphics board and handled in one place. Flushing it backwards and forwards to RAM/hard disk will slow the process down a lot.

[vlado]

The output image size does not matter, but the number of triangles and textures do. If the geometry is too heavy, or the textures do not fit on the GPU, the scene will not render. As far as number of triangles go, it is about 100 MB for 1 million triangles, but this is a very rough approximation.

Best regards,
Vlado

[Dariusz Makowski (Dadal)]

Heya

Thanx Vlado ! That souds like gtx480 should do the job for me... what about textures? Any idea how much they will take the memory... ? Also does tiling textures matter? And whats happenin to noise/gradients etc etc they need space in gpu too ?

[vlado]

Only bitmaps work in this version, and there is a setting to specify their resolution when uploaded on the GPU. Tiling does not matter (it does not take additional memory).

Best regards,
Vlado

[bardo]

Reading these posts, I'm curios to see if a realtime solution like VrayRT can handle and run properly a scene already optimized for a standard realtime engine like UDK or Unity with the plus of raytracing reflections/refractions and shadows.

Did anyone make a test??

Vlado, do you think it's long to come the days for VrayRT used for a videogame(or another realtime application)??

[Dariusz Makowski (Dadal)]

Reading these posts, I'm curios to see if a realtime solution like VrayRT can handle and run properly a scene already optimized for a standard realtime engine like UDK or Unity with the plus of raytracing reflections/refractions and shadows.

Did anyone make a test??

Vlado, do you think it's long to come the days for VrayRT used for a videogame(or another realtime application)??

I have feeling u should ask that question to Game engine developers than renderers I guess at some point it will change to game... Look at Crytek/Crysis their engines are hardly games... theyre pushing more towards actual rendering than games hehe

[Amplified]

Heya

Thanx Vlado ! That souds like gtx480 should do the job for me... what about textures? Any idea how much they will take the memory... ? Also does tiling textures matter? And whats happenin to noise/gradients etc etc they need space in gpu too ?

Maybe you should check out the "Sapphire Radeon HD 5970 Toxic 4GB", as supposed to the 1,5 gig of RAM on the Nvidia GTX 480 cards. Maybe a good option if GPU RAM is a issue?!

[Dariusz Makowski (Dadal)]

Oh god that GPU should work well in that case I guess.... but isnt it 2x2 gb as it is dual GPU? Wondering if vray would use it as 2x2 gb or entire 4 gb humhhh

[andrewjohn81]

If you want to make use of GPU render I'd stick with nVidia as most developers are using CUDA and not OpenCL since I hear it is still quite in it's infancy? Maybe I hear wrong, but that would be my suggestion. nVidia cards would support both correct?

[vlado]

Maybe you should check out the "Sapphire Radeon HD 5970 Toxic 4GB", as supposed to the 1,5 gig of RAM on the Nvidia GTX 480 cards. Maybe a good option if GPU RAM is a issue?!

I would love to, but the OpenCL support is very poor at present, so it's of no use for V-Ray RT at this time.

EDIT: Just saw there is a new ATI Streaming SDK released (2.2), will check it out...

Best regards,
Vlado

[GatesB]

I read the specs on the ATI SDK 2.2 and it supports OpenCL 1.1. I really hope these OpenCL drivers for ATI are mature, because they offer better GPU card options than nVidia.

[Amplified]

I would love to, but the OpenCL support is very poor at present, so it's of no use for V-Ray RT at this time.

EDIT: Just saw there is a new ATI Streaming SDK released (2.2), will check it out...

Best regards,
Vlado

Found this, it's a roadmap on ATI Streaming SDK and what's to come in 2.3 later this year, might be of intrest to you Vlado

http://oscarbg.blogspot.com/2010/07/...k-roadmap.html

[Dariusz Makowski (Dadal)]

Heya all

Just got few questions...

About GPU rendering. it uses GPU mhz to render... so we should look for gpu that got more cores&more mghz? If yes then Ati with their 3200(right?) cores > nvidia... or how should I look at CGI cards ?

Also Any luck vlado with new 2.2 SDK ?

And also doest moddificators take more memory in GPU ? Noise/twist/bend etc etc?

[dellis]

Vlado,

How does VRay RT GPU work with multiple cards in SLI mode? Does it see them as one...like you get the cumulative amount of memory and processing? Will the memory hit be spread across the cards? I saw the demo videos but i'm still a bit unsure about how this works...and how i should proceed with future hardware builds. Would love to build a couple machines using this motherboard:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...353&CatId=4068