Brazil vs. Vray - how to get such nice details with vray?

[marowak]

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[percydaman]

where did you find a demo of brazil

One thing that brazil had that I never understood why vray doesn't have is a simple secondary bounce multiplier. Put in "4" and you get "4" secondary bounces. Vrays method is a little bit more complicated. In brazil, to get good shadows in hard to reach places you just increase the # of bounces.

[marowak]

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[Long John]

So I too find it very hard in vray to get nice detailed GI shadows in area's where only bounced light can reach. I don't know if brazil would handle this better though.

can you up the file somewhere for download?

[marowak]

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[flipside]

Here's my testscene:

http://users.pandora.be/stor1/vray/scene01_room.zip

Curious what brazil can do

(note that render settings will be lost in this file - i use demo)

[marowak]

ok i finshed the render now finding a place to upload it took me 7 minutes whit photons

[marowak]

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[flipside]

Hi, is this done with skylight or did you place an area light outside the room?

[marowak]

area

[flipside]

can you do one with skylight only because that was just the whole idea behind this test. the table needs to be in a region without direct light hitting it.

with the area light trick I can also render it in 2 minutes with vray and good quality.

[lwan]

using skylight only means using QMC only. its no impossible to get super high quality but not in minutes .. better use a light & photon, but without focusing the table. i doubt vray or any other renderer will be able to do this with skylight only (i mean NO vray light with NO skylight portal option)

[marowak]

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[freak]

can u upload the demo so we all can see is brazil that good??? i mean it's only a demo right...we can not use it forever or anything....

[marowak]

Inquiries regarding evaluations or demos of Brazil r/s should be directed to sales@splutterfish.com and are handled on a case by case basis -

and pplz there is a guy spamming the sp forum about the irradiacne map they told me as a secret dont spam plz ye brazil will have one that the only thing he said ------ if u guys want more info www.splutterfish.com
im not gonna do more test im a vray user whit a demo that all dont wanna get any problems form this community peace.

I'm ZeBoxx, and it would be quite amazing for anybody to mention a version 1.5
Right now we're up to 1.2.x, I think 1.3, if anything, would be next

Not to mention claims of what would be better - it's a well-known (well, maybe not) fact I haven't used V-Ray (or other renderers, sans scanline) since my involvement with Brazil for exactly this sort of reason.

So I'd take everything else with a grain of salt.

*sound of record scratch*

Especially since the source of this information has been pointed out to me.
I totally forgot my login details for the v-ray forum (so I had to register anew, d'oh!).
I won't rehash the post, and instead highlight one key problem with it: The claim of having a demo of 1.28. There is no 1.28, 1.2.8, 1.0.28 or 1.2.28 that has been made available either commercially or as a demo.
Unfortunately others have pointed out that a post with similar claims was once made on a forum of more dubious origin and content.

It has also become apparent that this individual has withdrawn him/herself from making any further posts on this matter, and edited their existing posts to read a series of periods, as a result of this particular thread before this post, so I will leave it at that.


- omg he told me that by the irc of splutterfish or some one like bigfi1-1sh i dont know and he say he have never tested vray he say when im asking him he always says brazil is better vray only blurs the scene and i ask him more a lot and he pissed off and say ok brazil will have a irradiacne map like coz im telling him vray is faster.
about 1.2 is 1.2.xx and some shit i was not exact never