GENSLER and Vray

[Teriander]

On Chaosgroup's homepage there is a news spot about Gensler and Vray. How Gensler uses v-ray and apparently supports it. Here is the link:
http://www.chaosgroup.com/en/2/aia-2014.html

But I recently read another article by Gensler that is quiet the opposite. This article says Gensler is the biggest "Octane" renderer client in America, and how much faster it is than V-Ray. They even show a comparison of rendering 4 hrs with Vray and 10 mins with Octane. If Gensler supports V-Ray, why are they writing articles on "Octane" being a superior rendering engine? Here is the link:
http://www.bdcnetwork.com/hyper-spee...-shots-seconds

I'm curious what Chaosgroup has to say about this. I personally think V-Ray is better than Octane, but I wouldn't share a booth with Gensler after their Octane article.

[Neilg]

I think they use octane during the design process and vray for the presentation images. they have 43 separate offices and over 4,000 employees anyway, this isnt a 10 person studio contradicting itself.

[Teriander]

Hmm, the only reason I would disagree with you is that they boast about using Octane to do character animations as well. Read down to where it says "Turning Architects into Movie Directors". Clearly this section of the article describes Gensler using Octane beyond the scope of just a design process. The whole article reads as a seller for Octane and how superior it is to V-Ray. Which of course I disagree.

[eyepiz]

I wonder why they wouldn't use V-Ray RT GPU...It could possibly do the same as Octane...at least in the interior that was compared.

[Neilg]

Hmm, the only reason I would disagree with you is that they boast about using Octane to do character animations as well. Read down to where it says "Turning Architects into Movie Directors". Clearly this section of the article describes Gensler using Octane beyond the scope of just a design process. The whole article reads as a seller for Octane and how superior it is to V-Ray. Which of course I disagree.

Did you watch the animation example? that basset guy knocked it together for the article, it doesn't have any point. I wouldn't be surprised if the article was his idea, and he convinced someone to publish an advert masquerading as an article to get in octanes good books.

They have 35 licenses in total which I didn't even notice before (and makes them the biggest user of octane, lol), that's like only being used in one studio (out of 43)

[Macker]

I had to chuckle at the VRay image that supposedly took 4 hours to render. I might start contracting myself out to help people with their render times if that took 4 hours to render. Not that I am anti-octane or anything, but seeing things like that does always smack entirely of bullsh*t.

[vlado]

I'm curious what Chaosgroup has to say about this.

I don't know if we need to say anything. Especially the interior images from the article about Octane speak for themselves...

Best regards,
Vlado

[kosso_olli]

I don't know if we need to say anything. Especially the interior images from the article about Octane speak for themselves...

Best regards,
Vlado

The Octane renders look like there are no IES/mesh lights or glossy reflections in there at all...

[alexyork]

It all makes little sense to me. The Octane renders are extremely basic. Any comparison is more or less moot. They are a monstrously enormous company, so I've no doubt they have different departments using different tools and workflows.

[duke2]

This reminds me of when Autodesk didn't have the entire market cornered, and each software company would essentially claim a movie as their own. It turned out, like in this case, they used a whole slate of applications. Also, I had to double check the date on that article. I really hope they're not paying "thousands" for those images, even with a 24h turnover.

[Neilg]

they're not paying anything, they're for in house presentation.

[devin]

I can't tell you all the problems this article caused for me, I had an office full of architects ready to buy 100 copies of Octane because they believed everything in that article.

[Pixelcon]

hehehe brilliant

I can't tell you all the problems this article caused for me, I had an office full of architects ready to buy 100 copies of Octane because they believed everything in that article.

[Syclone1]

The thing that irritates me about that one is the comparison between the V-Ray rendering and the Octane one, there are missing materials and lights in the Octane one. I could easily reproduce the same thing with Scanline and say its "faster" than V-Ray by eliminating materials and lights... Maybe Im old school but I only have respect for articles like that when comparing oranges to oranges otherwise I disregard as marketing hype and move on...

[eyepiz]

When Light Cache come out with SP1 RT GPU is going to be a game changer for Arch Viz! I just hope we can get some more shader support in GPU.