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  • sunrise/sunset cloud illumination/vrayaerialperspective problem

    ok two issues in one post.

    first, am i right to assume the only way to achieve proper cloud illumination at the start and end of the day is to fake it with fill lights? as you may have noticed, at sunset/dusk, the clouds get pretty strongly illuminated, and higher altitude clouds can also be illuminated long after the sun has set.

    obviously the vraysun/sky has no real horizon, so once the sun goes down, the illumination is the same everywhere.. im not going to get more light higher up.


    im trying with vdb clouds, and during the day they look great, but the closer we get to the ends of the day, the worse they look. and they stay resolutely dull in appearance for the whole period of low sun.

    im pretty sure ill just have to keyframe some extra lights in there, but any nice tricks most appreciated.


    second.. do vrayvolumegrid and vrayaerialperspective play together at all? if i have them both in the environment effects i get strange results.


    with the volumegrid on top, and aerial perspective below (in the list) i get no volumegrids rendered, or, maybe they render but hidden behind the aerialperspective effect? ive tried setting the range to like 900,000m but it doesnt change the result

    with the order reversed in the list, i get my volumes rendering, but the more aerialperspective i add, the darker they render against the sky.


    neither results are very useful!

  • #2
    I heard a lot of bad talk about Ozone - but I went a head and bought it during the black friday sale. Initially I was not pleased with the plugin, but I took some time to work with it and now I am extremely pleased. Once you get the hang of it and use the right settings, the skys and clouds it can create are awesome. And the render times are pretty quick.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JeffG2 View Post
      I heard a lot of bad talk about Ozone - but I went a head and bought it during the black friday sale. Initially I was not pleased with the plugin, but I took some time to work with it and now I am extremely pleased. Once you get the hang of it and use the right settings, the skys and clouds it can create are awesome. And the render times are pretty quick.

      Could you share some shots you did with it please?
      Kind Regards,
      Morne

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      • #4
        Here you go...

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        • #5
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          • #6
            Cool, how did you do the mountains?
            Kind Regards,
            Morne

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            • #7
              I grabbed some low poly mountains off Turbosquid (one near mountain and the closer rock features were displacement) and placed them an appropriate distance away from the camera and the Ozone atmosphere took care of the atmospheric shading.

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              • #8
                I've been saying for years that VRay could do with something like Ozone's cloud/atmosphere integrated within it.
                Check out my (rarely updated) blog @ http://macviz.blogspot.co.uk/

                www.robertslimbrick.com

                Cache nothing. Brute force everything.

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                • #9
                  ozone is quite cool thing , though i did not find any good tutorials for it... have you found any ?
                  Available for remote work.
                  My LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olegbudeanu/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by super gnu View Post
                    im trying with vdb clouds, and during the day they look great, but the closer we get to the ends of the day, the worse they look. and they stay resolutely dull in appearance for the whole period of low sun!
                    Where are you getting the VDB content? I would love to have a few cloud VDB's to work with. Ran the Houdini route and is too time-consuming. Some one like PG or VizPark could develop a few samples including animation and sell them for a some cash.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Oleg_Budeanu View Post
                      ozone is quite cool thing , though i did not find any good tutorials for it... have you found any ?
                      I found no tutorials. I had to work it out on my own.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AtlJimK View Post
                        Where are you getting the VDB content? I would love to have a few cloud VDB's to work with. Ran the Houdini route and is too time-consuming. Some one like PG or VizPark could develop a few samples including animation and sell them for a some cash.
                        send me a PM with your email address and i can send you a few to play with.. nothing amazing, and not animated, but youre welcome to them to play with.

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