VrayLight - Visible but no alpha: Possible?

[MANUEL_MOUSIOL]

I am using vraylights to light my refractive object from the back and need it to be visible to the camera so that the light is visible in the refractions, but I dont want the light to visible in the alpha channel. Is that possible?
thanks as always for the help!

[alexyork]

Couldnt you place a same-sized plane object where the light is and set it to visible to reflections/refractions but with -1 alpha contribution? Then disable visibility for the light?

[MANUEL_MOUSIOL]

Couldnt you place a same-sized plane object where the light is and set it to visible to reflections/refractions but with -1 alpha contribution? Then disable visibility for the light?

I am doing that right now with the planes, but I like using real lights for their features and light lister and so prefer to use real lights.