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  • Local GI settings (I know this has been asked before)

    Hey everyone.
    Was talking to few people who use vray in production and we all agreed that vray needs local gi settings.
    The reason for that is:
    All tho vray is fast and very good quality render over time as it has progressed from version 1.09 to current 1.46.x every one has noticed speed drops here and there, and many new settings and etc. I think this is normal, because as something matures it sacrifices few qualities for gaining new features and etc.
    What we were thinking is local gi settings on per shader basis. Or it could be per object or per subobject. The idea is that in vray shader there is glossy interpolations which base of of the same principal as irradience map.
    What if this same approach could be implemented into "Local GI" rollout, and each shader would control amount of gi recievd and sent. (I know in system/objects you can set send/recieve gi thats not the same)
    I remember way back this issue has been brought up, mainly because final render has this feature. And controlling the sub-scattering on per object basis was greatly improved as fewer samples were needed and thus speeding up rendering of scattering.

    So if in globals the gi engine is for example irradience/light cache then in local gi corresponding section will be enabled. If its quasi/quasi then only quasi section will be enabled.

    Please consider this as I and every one I spoke to believe that this is important.
    Dmitry Vinnik
    Silhouette Images Inc.
    ShowReel:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxSJlvSwAhA
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  • #2
    yes this has been asked for many times. Finalrender has it and afaik, brazil has it too? Anyways, I think its absolutely essential!
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    • #3
      as long as it dosnt sacrifice simplicity im with you.
      Have used fR for a very short while but didnt like it as it was bloated with settings and overrides and etc..etc. i switched to vray because it was simple and fast.

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      • #4
        any one cared to trie Render man? haha i couldnt even get the thing started...alfred server, malrone server, cmd feed back promt...must have time clock exectly as what ever setup.... - now that thing is complicated
        vray is easy, however if it wants to be used in film production then it must be complicated (some what)...
        Dmitry Vinnik
        Silhouette Images Inc.
        ShowReel:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxSJlvSwAhA
        https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitry-v...-identity-name

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        • #5
          maybe there can be a toggle button in vray system for vray advanced controls and simple controls. the simple one would be kinda like what we have now and the advanced will open alot of local perameters

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          • #6
            This could be very very usefull....

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            • #7
              RSVP Gene

              Gene is awaiting authorization to be able to post, but he asked me to post his reply which he and I believe is important so here we go:


              I couldn’t agree more. I’m not exactly sure why people are soo afraid of complexity. THIS IS CG. I would love to see 90% of all people in the industry go back 5-7 years and try and make it. I can hear all the whining now.

              If you use vray for anything serious you already know this is a required feature. IMO, it would be best if it were on a shader basis with an override rollout. Override unchecked = global settings are used. Checked lets you use local. It doesn’t get any simpler than that.

              Sorry for the rant. This is a serious request.

              Thanks
              Gene
              Dmitry Vinnik
              Silhouette Images Inc.
              ShowReel:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxSJlvSwAhA
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              • #8
                wow gene, I had no idea you were so impassioned about this.... hehe j/k oh relay that please...
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                • #9
                  RSVP Gene

                  Hehe, sorry… deadline stressed and caught up in the moment I guess. I work with film at 4k x 4k and things get sticky at this res. Guess what renderer we use?
                  Dmitry Vinnik
                  Silhouette Images Inc.
                  ShowReel:
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxSJlvSwAhA
                  https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitry-v...-identity-name

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                  • #10
                    you render at 4k squared? thats a crazy aspect ratio for film. gosh Id hate to guess what renderer your using, there are so many of them these days.... :P
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                    • #11
                      percy its vray
                      Dmitry Vinnik
                      Silhouette Images Inc.
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                      • #12
                        hehe, my friendly sarcasm cant get past you...
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                        • #13
                          cylons approach
                          Dmitry Vinnik
                          Silhouette Images Inc.
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                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxSJlvSwAhA
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Morbid Angel
                            cylons approach
                            Eeep!
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                            • #15
                              Muffit will save you!

                              Eric Boer
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