Node Based Shading

[dougWilkinson]

Hi,

I searched around the forum to see if this was requested but I couldn't find it. Forgive me if I missed a previous conversation on this.

After asking artists here to test Vray 5 for c4d, node based shading is single most important thing on our list that's missing from the initial shipping version.

• All our c4d artists are coming from Octane / Redshift and have really come to rely on node basked shading.
• The existing Maya / Vray artists that we want to bring over to c4d are trained to use the maya node editor for creating Vray lookdev.

thanks for reading
doug

[aleksandar.kasabov]

Hello dougWilkinson ,

It is on our to-do list to add support for the Cinema4D node editor and this will be implemented in the future.

[SharkNinja]

No Nodes?! Wow! Plus as I have recently learnt, no VRSCENE loader, no V-Ray Fur. Starting to look like a half baked release. How long can we expect to wait for these additions?

[aleksandar.kasabov]

All these features are on our to-do list and will be implemented in the future. At the moment I cannot provide you with an exact time frame but we are working on implementing them as soon as possible.

Thank you for your patience.

[shaio]

No Nodes?! Wow! Plus as I have recently learnt, no VRSCENE loader, no V-Ray Fur. Starting to look like a half baked release. How long can we expect to wait for these additions?

Hey SharkNinja ,

we know that many people are missing those features and the node editor has been requested from quite some time now. We've decided to take our time and develop them properly (especially the code under the hood) instead of rushing a release with many features that were probably going to be unfinished, buggy and many users were going be unhappy while we try to patch something that was going to be broken and bad from the beginning.
I've already tried to explain this on a few threads but development takes time and if we had to implement every single existing feature that was present in the old V-Ray versions and then ship it to users it would have easily taken two more years until we release V-Ray for Cinema 4D and we were still going to be catching up with other V-Ray integrations. Another factor is that every single one of those features is written from scratch and nothing from the previous code is being used. Your feedback is very important at this point to help us shape the product workflow. I hope this kind of explains the situation a little bit.

Thank you for your understanding!

[SharkNinja]

Ivan, thank you for the explanation and forgive my comments that came from some frustration. I think it may help if CG could perhaps provide a timeline of when these features would be added. I'm sure the Community wouldnt hold you to it as we know development is very fluid. However it would certainly allow managers like myself to plan out their production strategies and such.

[sirio76]

In an ideal world a timeline is a very good thing to have, unfortunately in the real world that doesn't work most of the time. I look often at other developers public timeline (one in particular), and feature release date are regularly postponed by months or even years, is quite rare they meet their target.
That being said I would still prefer to have one, but I would not base my production strategies on that

[haniel1107]

I think it may help if CG could perhaps provide a timeline of when these features would be added

Good Luck with this request..

I would be happy, if some standard features like clipper, bug-free multi-instances, VrayFur... and support for some plugs like forester, x-particles, Anima .... would be implemented... soon as possible..
We all have no Idea where the priorities are or how the possible timings could look...

Everybody knows timings can shift...

[nunomatos]

shaio I really would not say a timeline, but at least a roadmap to see what we could expect in a the next updates... "it's really frustrating having a Ferrari, but with no key to put the engine on... At least if we could know who will bring the key" I totally understand that you are bringing a new render engine to C4D (all write from scratch) ... but please add a roadmap... a thing that we could expect next... you probably have a strategy for the next steps, i guess
by the way we miss a lot Native C4D shaders
all the best
nuno

[shaio]

Hey nunomatos ,
I'll try and compile a list of features that are planned for the next big update (not the next hotfix) and share it in a separate post. As much as I want to give a timeline it will be a difficult one since we don't want to leave a wrong impression if some features don't make it in time, but we do want to keep everyone updated of what is coming at least with some of the features that existed with V-Ray 3.7

[nunomatos]

Hi shaio (Ivan)
thanks so much. As i told, not a timeline, but a roadmap to understand what is planned next and thanks for understand
all the best
nuno

[xpez]

I wish the c4d VRAY users could vote on what features they want to see in the next 6 months as the highest priority. That would be really interesting feedback from the users! This forum must have a vote function for matters such as this. this kind of looping into the customers point of view would be super helpful in making shaping the development.



https://trello.com/b/dgI8vjDb/corona...-map-cinema-4d

[haniel1107]

I wish the c4d VRAY users could vote on what features they want to see in the next 6 months as the highest priority. That would be really interesting feedback from the users! This forum must have a vote function for matters such as this. this kind of looping into the customers point of view would be super helpful in making shaping the development.

I wish you get a complete software, when purchasing...

[aleksandar.kasabov]

Hi,

I searched around the forum to see if this was requested but I couldn't find it. Forgive me if I missed a previous conversation on this.

After asking artists here to test Vray 5 for c4d, node based shading is single most important thing on our list that's missing from the initial shipping version.

• All our c4d artists are coming from Octane / Redshift and have really come to rely on node basked shading.
• The existing Maya / Vray artists that we want to bring over to c4d are trained to use the maya node editor for creating Vray lookdev.

thanks for reading
doug

Hello,

Yesterday we released V-Ray 5 update 1, which now supports the Cinema4D node editor, along with V-Ray Fur, V-Ray Clipper, and many other exciting new features and improvements. The builds are available in the Downloads section on our website.

You can check what is new in update 1 in this forum post.

[dougWilkinson]

Thankyou Aleksandar! we're digging into this. Really great update