default render settings

[sharktacos]

Here are some changes that I think could be good to have as defaults in the render settings:

Vray common:
don't save image: ON (default is OFF)
saving the file to disc takes time, so enabling this speeds things up a lot
animation: standard (default is disabled)
render only in batch mode: ON (default is OFF)

Vray tab:
render viewport subdivison: ON (default is OFF)

Settings tab:
Max subdivs: 4 (default is 256)
this also really speeds up things

[Morbid Angel]

You can also save vray preset and just load that.

[sharktacos]

Hi Dmitry. I work as an educator, so while I am aware of presets, and use them myself, I also work regularly with people who are new to Vray.

The above settings, I have found, are some things that always trip them up, and IMHO it would be nice for new users if the Render Settings just already were set in the best way by default (I'm sure the Chaos folks would agree )

[bigbossfr]

Hi Dmitry. I work as an educator, so while I am aware of presets, and use them myself, I also work regularly with people who are new to Vray.

The above settings, I have found, are some things that always trip them up, and IMHO it would be nice for new users if the Render Settings just already were set in the best way by default (I'm sure the Chaos folks would agree )

The problem is every one want some different "default settings".
For example, me, i want the render viewport subdivison OFF by default.

[Morbid Angel]

yeah same here. I also don't really agree with gi being on by default.

[CrustedInk]

but,
" Max subdivs: 4 (default is 256)"

would be really great

[sharktacos]

The problem is every one want some different "default settings".
For example, me, i want the render viewport subdivison OFF by default.

Sure. That's why we are on a forum so we can discuss and hopefully come up with a consensus that most folks like.

I have to say, I don't really get why you would want viewport subdivison OFF. If you don't want viewport subdivs just don't use them in Maya. All the render settings do is say to Vray "IF viewport subdivs are on for a model, don't just ignore that when you render". Perhaps you could explain your reasoning?

[Morbid Angel]

We never use viewport subdivs during rendering because I believe its not using the same subdiv method as if you used vray subdivision. Further the viewport subdiv is not efficient when you have large models so why would you have it on in the first place? Render time subdivision is exactly that. Viewport subdivision should be using for modeling / checking smoothing of the meshes nothing more.

[vlado]

It is the same microtriangle view-dependent subdivision that we use when you add the V-Ray subd attributes. Although we might switch to OpenSubdiv at some point.

The reason it is off by default is because it turned out that users recklessly turn viewport subdivision on for large portions of their scene and then wonder why things render slow or take up a lot of RAM.

Best regards,
Vlado

[sharktacos]

It is the same microtriangle view-dependent subdivision that we use when you add the V-Ray subd attributes. Although we might switch to OpenSubdiv at some point.

The reason it is off by default is because it turned out that users recklessly turn viewport subdivision on for large portions of their scene and then wonder why things render slow or take up a lot of RAM.

Best regards,
Vlado

setting the subdivsions to 4 instead of 256 would help that. I think that would be good, even if it were off by default.

[ricoholmes]

I've got to chip in with a "please no!" I'm afraid. The very first request of "don't save image: ON (default is OFF) " would cause serious headaches here. It's an easy thing to miss, and has caused massive time loss for us in the past (farm rendering a whole series over weekends only to find it rendered, but never saved the frames, DOH)

[sharktacos]

I've got to chip in with a "please no!" I'm afraid. The very first request of "don't save image: ON (default is OFF) " would cause serious headaches here. It's an easy thing to miss, and has caused massive time loss for us in the past (farm rendering a whole series over weekends only to find it rendered, but never saved the frames, DOH)

The option's full name is "don't save image (ignored in batch mode)" so having this on would not affect a batch render on a farm.

[ricoholmes]

Tell that to Standalone or Renderpal (not sure which is the cause). It happens, believe me.

[snivlem]

I think settings to default values would help in terms of vray aa/minor settings and gi. But general settings affecting overall scene and output defaults should be changed with user presets IMO

[pechart]

I have "don't save image: ON" ticked on all of the time and never had any issues. We're using renderpal, but not vray standalone. But just keep it as it is, I'd say!