V Ray for Modo license

[fco3d]

Hi Chaos team, I would like to know if the license of V Ray will stay the way it works now, with a USB Dongle or if you have something else for MODO community, I am freelancer and I have installed MODO at home and two places that I do work, my computer is locked so I am the only one who can use it so MODO flex license is perfect for me, in case of V Ray I will have to carry the dongle along?
also this will affect other V Ray installation such, 3d Max? or Softimage?

Thank and keep the great work!.

Fco.

[vlado]

We would very much like to move away from the dongle, or at least give people an option to work with out it - the dongle solves some problems nicely, but of course introduces others. This is not related to V-Ray for Modo specifically, it is relevant for all our products.

I hope that this can happen in the time frame for the release of the official V-Ray for Modo.

Best regards,
Vlado

[fco3d]

Good, that sounds great news.
thank you for the quick answer

[iamlifo]

It says here : http://docs.chaosgroup.com/display/V...p+your+license
"V-Ray for MODO uses a software licensing system and it uses the V-Ray license server to run the required license. The V-Ray license server can run on the local machine or on any network machine, which can be accessed over TCP/IP protocol on port 30305. Make sure that your anti-virus or firewall software is not blocking the communication to the license server.

The V-Ray for MODO license is node locked and can not be transferred between different machines. To do this, you will need to contact support@chaosgroup.com for additional licenses. "

Will there be a conflict if we have another V-ray version on the same computer with this new licensing system? Or is this just for the beta period?

I currently have V-ray with Rhino.

[vlado]

There shouldn't be any issues with other V-Ray versions on the same machine.

Best regards,
Vlado

[iamlifo]

So V-ray for Modo will only be available with a node-locked license or will it be possible to put a license on an existing dongle? If it's node-locked only, are you going to charge a transfer fee?

[vlado]

So V-ray for Modo will only be available with a node-locked license

No; the beta license has nothing to do with the final release licensing - it is just a temporary solution for the duration of the beta.

or will it be possible to put a license on an existing dongle?

Yes, you will be able to get a dongle with the license, although we hope that other options will also be available.

If it's node-locked only, are you going to charge a transfer fee?

No, why would we do that?

Best regards,
Vlado

[iamlifo]

No, why would we do that?

Best regards,
Vlado

Glad to hear. I thought you were maybe going to match The Foundry's policy. Except for Modo, you have to pay fees to move licenses from one machine to another.

[Twistedsheep]

Vlado, I would absolutely love if the Modo license allowed for a non-dongle solution. The Foundry's licensing system using RLM works in an identical way (to the user) as what you have described, by using a machine locked license. With that system, I am able to remotely check out my license from my home workstation, and being able to do that has been awesome.

I know that a reliable internet connection isn't nearly as common for some, so a dongle solution will definitely have its place. But for me, I will jump on a license if it allows the machine locked with license server option.

Thank you for asking this fco3d, and thank you Vlado for being so open with what is being considered!

[iamlifo]

The Foundry's licensing system using RLM works in an identical way (to the user) as what you have described, by using a machine locked license. With that system, I am able to remotely check out my license from my home workstation, and being able to do that has been awesome.

Don't want to change the topic away from V-ray, but how are you able to move a Foundry software from one computer to another? It states explicity that you aren't allowed to do that. And if you do, there is a 200 GBP fee.

[Twistedsheep]

Nope, I'm not moving the software. I have my home machine setup with a license server and that holds my licenses. I can connect to that machine over the network from any other machine in the house, or over the net if I'm not home. The licenses are completely locked to my home machine, and when the license is checked out, no other machine can run the software. It's basically how companies do license sharing.

Nothing fancy, but now that I have setup my software like this, I love the flexibility

[iamlifo]

Nope, I'm not moving the software. I have my home machine setup with a license server and that holds my licenses. I can connect to that machine over the network from any other machine in the house, or over the net if I'm not home. The licenses are completely locked to my home machine, and when the license is checked out, no other machine can run the software. It's basically how companies do license sharing.

Nothing fancy, but now that I have setup my software like this, I love the flexibility

OK but that's a workaround. It's not really license flexibility, you're remotely accessing the computer that has the software. If that main computer went down, you'd be stuck.

[Twistedsheep]

That is true, license downtime due to cat-on-keyboard is definitely a hazard. I should explain that my enthusiasm for a machine locked license is due to the headaches that I have had regarding dongle based systems, specifically, V-Ray 2.0. My machine haaated that dongle and would occasionally ignore that it was plugged in, and lock up the machine when attempting to rebooting if I had inserted the dongle while it was running. Subsequence reboots went fine as long as I kept the dongle away from the machine.

So my cheering on a hardware locked system was very much influenced by my past experiences, as well as my recent experiences. Where my remote license setup has allowed me the freedom to use my licenses both at home and out and about, without worrying about a dongle, or which two machines I am most likely to use the software with.