Is this product still being updated?

[ALTO]

So this means that in Rhino 5, we can't use and edit Rhino materials while Vray is loaded, it's ok for now that v5 isn't out but...

I really hope things will change in the near future.

[dkendig]

Not sure how much of their material structure we are going to support. It could be useful to a point... but what happens when you want to create a toon material, or a 2sided material, or a layered material that has options that rhino materials don't have? For this release anyway, we aren't planning to integrate with Rhino materials.

[joe_b]

So this means that in Rhino 5, we can't use and edit Rhino materials while Vray is loaded, it's ok for now that v5 isn't out but...

Hi Alto,

I'm not sure how V-Ray stops you from using the basic Rhino materials if that is what you want to use. Could you explain what you mean by this? Or maybe explain what feature it is that makes you prefer the Rhino material over the V-Ray materials? Unfortunately, materials are specific to their underlying renderer- there are common things, but then there are many differences. Even in Max and Maya V-Ray is setup to work best with the V-Ray shader.

Do you mean you want better support of rendering existing Rhino materials like automatically making a V-Ray shader that uses the color, transparency, bump, and environment textures?

I'm sure we can figure something out to help with your workflow if you can help me understand what you are trying to do. Thanks

[ALTO]

Hi Joe,
we have different library meshes with Rhino standard materials applied for different uses, some of them are for realtime visualization (R5 rendered shadow mode) but sometimes we need to do quick renders so recreate all materials will be very time consuming, others are only for easy translations between render engines (we use quite often Maxwell and Vray at the same time) and again fine-tune every material will be really a pain...

Well in Rhino4 all is work as expected while in Rhino5 if i switch to Vray, the Material Editor disappear and if i try to edit the Standard Material by Object properties i got this message "This selection can not edited here", so i can import and render object with rhino materials but not edit them nor create new ones.

Do you mean you want better support of rendering existing Rhino materials like automatically making a V-Ray shader that uses the color, transparency, bump, and environment textures?

Actually the internal translation of rhino materials is quite good, only bump seems not working correctly (is always too strong) also transparency is not translated at all, having an option that convert rhino materials into new vray materials (with the same name properties etc) would be very handy.
Of course a better viewport visualization of vray shaders (bump, transparency, alpha map, texture tiling, procedurals etc), if possible, would be very welcome too!

Thanks

[joe_b]

Well in Rhino4 all is work as expected while in Rhino5 if i switch to Vray, the Material Editor disappear and if i try to edit the Standard Material by Object properties i got this message "This selection can not edited here", so i can import and render object with rhino materials but not edit them nor create new ones.

Weird, ok I haven't seen that message before. I'll see if I can track down why that is happening.

[dkendig]

We never intended for the current release to work with Rhino 5 at all, so just to clarify, the way that V-Ray for Rhino works with Rhino 4 is sufficient, but you were concerned that the behavior you were seeing when using that version with Rhino 5? Additional functionality would be nice, but the functionality that exists when using the product with Rhino 4 works for you?

[ALTO]

Yes it works in rhino4, in fact i was only asking about the Beta you're working on and Rhino5, so at the moment is not a big problem.

[dkendig]

good, I think the current state of the beta should satisfy your needs. Open beta shouldn't be too far off, so we will keep an eye out for your feedback when that happens

[Micha_cg]

It would be nice if rhino materials could be used for large architecture scenes with many billboard objects (diffuse map + transparency map). The problem is that Rhino need alpha maps and Vray needs transparency maps (inverted alpha). Bump support would be great too.

PS: Now I can post at the new VfR forum again.

[Nickkarter]

Any news on the release of the Beta? If not how about a list of new features to look forward to?

[dkendig]

We were hoping to go to beta prior to Siggraph, but we've been busy trying to pump out some nice features for the event, and haven't really had the need for more feedback yet. We do plan on doing an open beta soon, but it will likely not happen until after Siggraph is over. IES Lights, Proxies, and quite a few additional settings tossed in here and there are some features that are heading your way in the new update. Of course there's more, but I think I'll hold off on commenting until we finish trying to ramp up for Siggraph.

[mjr3d]

I know you're tired of this question, but how are things going with the development for the next iteration of VfR? I'm starting to feel like a donkey being led on my an unattainable carrot. Any information would be appreciated!

Thank you.

[greg_bores@entegris.com]

Well 2012 is only a month away. This thread, "Is this product still being updated" has been alive for years and still no new release. What is the story? Seems like it's time to jump ship.

[vlado]

From what I know, the beta period for the next release is scheduled to start in a few days.

Best regards,
Vlado

[Micha_cg]

But please no official beta with to much known bugs. It would cause a lot communication work and to much time for the new testers, who report the old bugs again. A schedule doesn't help here, only if the developing team is nearly ready to fix all bugs and more feedback is needed than an official beta should be released.