I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene :)

[thomthom]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

Good point Devin.
My apologies for straying off topic. I can understand Billy's frustrations, meant to point out what I felt was reasonable to expect from support - not point any fingers. Apologies Billy I came across too crass.

[BillyRaygun]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

No worries at all. I'm not upset. Just a little frustrated but not to the point I'm breaking stuff. ;D

My apologies for not fully understanding the level of support that can be provided. CG Architect sounds like the right place.

I have a high respect for everyone here and the skills and effort put in with the guys at ASGVIS.

Cheers!

[thomthom]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

Ok - a reply on-topic:

For grass and tarmac I often end up adding that in post. Using photos from grass and roads. Some I find on the internet - freely available. But what I use the most is stuff I have photographed myself.
The stuff you find on the internet usually doesn't include what you need. Or something obscures what you want.

So during the summer I try to take photos which I can use later on for further references.

I've never been a fan of displaced geometry as grass - never looks right.


Have a search for Free Agent's images. Excellent references of what post processing can do to the final image. He got some very nice before and after. Also TOM got some great before and after - he do a lot of post work.

[mattcoops]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene




I have updated it slightly, what do you guys think?

[Jackson_cg]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

Much much better, but two very important things are still wrong with this image:

1. You still have the front facades in full shadow.

2. Please don't post renders on forums in png format, I'm so sick of waiting (ok, admittedly it's only a few seconds) for huge png images to open when a jpg would load ten times faster. (Your image is 2.15Mb, as 80% jpg it's 277kb)

As a general rule when it come to renders pngs are for editing, jpgs are for posting.

[thomthom]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

Looks better, yes. Though the grass seem out of scale from the rest of the model.

Some other textures on the roads would complete it. CGTextures got loads of good road textures to sample from.

[mattcoops]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

sorry Jackson, will post as .jpg next time.
How do i go about changing the lighting to the front model? spin in round to face other way? or change lighting times in the shadow settings? Also all the materials i created in this scene are from images on cgtextures, im not too sure why the tarmac is like that as i did find a good tarmac material, may need to enlarge the texture for more detail... with the grass, i used the uv mapping environment thing that I found on thi forum somewhere... again i may have to play around with the texture.. make it smaller for more detail or something as its a little blurry i must admit.
cheers guys for your help so far! Im learning!

[thomthom]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

For the light, just adjust the shadows in SU so they fall differently. Might be easiest to just rotate teh north angle in your model.

Ah, it's the Micah method - yea I don't think you'll be able to adjust the size of the grass then. I have often not been able to use that texture because the grass ends up looking too big. I've not been able to get hold of any other grass environments.

[mattcoops]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

yeh sorry thomthom i realised how to do shadow straight after i posted, rendering the model now, just span the whole lot around.
I think grass is the hardest thing to do in sketchup for vray. Next to impossible, yeh thats the one! The micah method, oh can we not resize it then? What do you suggest for the grass then, should i do all of that after the image has rendered?

[thomthom]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

I usually add grass in post.
Did you have a look for FreeAgent and TOM 's images here on this forum?

[remon_v]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

hey you could use grass planes aswell... this one I find good, but you have to make an ALPHA map to make it work:

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...5&prevstart=12

also the roofgutter is too small and black. I would make it a bit bigger and give it a grey color.

[mattcoops]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

hey,
yeh i saw this Kwistenbiebel's grass, i tried to apply it last week and just couldn't do it... it wasnt rendering properly, and i dont quite understand it.. ok thanks for noticing that, i will change the drain pipes as well.

[remon_v]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

hey I'm sure we can help with the grass... just post a screenshot of your render and settings maybe

[thomthom]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene

hey I'm sure we can help with the grass... just post a screenshot of your render and settings maybe

He already has posted screenshots...

[mattcoops]

Re: I need all you guys to help me with improving my street scene



Here is a screenshot of what is happening. I can see some grass peeping through the render, and i have updated and reloaded the images in vray.. but i obviously have to reapply a texture/material somehwhere.... any help please guys? been great help so far!