I would like to overlay precise edge line over enscape rendering, but the lines that I exported from skp are not matching, is there any trick ways to do it?
Thanks.
I would like to overlay precise edge line over enscape rendering, but the lines that I exported from skp are not matching, is there any trick ways to do it?
Thanks.
Maybe it is your field of view settings, can you maybe show a picture of you problem, a enscape view and a sketchup view?
… sorry bingbing8611, it doesn´t work. Enscape´s somhow dynamic viewport is constantly changing.
Both: if you change its own size or proportion, but also if you change the viewport size of Sketchup (e.g. by different icon bars or tray menu sizes).
This inconsistent behavior prevents e.g. a colleague from being able to produce exactly the same render as me. Or I can’t repeat my result later for the same reasons even. So, even the banal reality of using different monitors prevents this.
All other SU-plugin-renderers use a workflow-compatible behavior instead. Their behavior always focuses exclusively on SketchUp´s viewport height. Through this fixation it is always possible to combine native SkUp´s exports with the corresponding rendering in the way you describe it above.
If you render in Vray, Twilight, Thea. Shaderlight, Renderin etc etc…, the rendered image will always fit exactly to your SkUp image export, regardless of which viewport settings are set in SkUp itself or in the used renderer. This ability is an indispensable must for our production processes.
The screenshot example below shows that the render result must not be corrupted by the used graphical software setup. In both setups, the render result will be both: a: always exactly the same and b: always exactly matching SkUp´s export.
@ Maarsso, this is an example: The (in this case) AmbientOcclusion Render is made with Shaderlight, the lines are exported from native SkUp.
Completely independent of Monitor setup, viewport size or -proportion, these two pictures will always fit together in Photoshop. With Enscape this result is impossible so far…
First off, activate “Synchronize Views”, then head over into the Capture tab of our Enscape settings and set the resolution to “Custom”, and check “Use viewport aspect ratio”.
When you now export a rendering, it will match with SketchUp’s viewport / exported images through SketchUp accordingly.
@EGIESTO , if you’re doing that, then you should be able to match the viewport of SketchUp with renderings as well, but you cannot currently save corresponding Custom resolutions defined by the viewport in views. So SketchUp viewport adjustments, will of course have an effect on the output resolution so that it always matches when this setting is activated.
Further, I suppose you’d like to generally save your own Custom resolution settings of the Capture tab in Views is that correct? Am I missing something?
Finally, you mentioned that “Their behavior always focuses exclusively on SketchUp´s viewport height.”, that is not the case, please check out the following:
Here “Synchronize Views” was activated and also the “Use viewport aspect ratio” option - the exported rendering reflects what is shown in the viewport. I’ve also exported a image through SketchUp itself and it matches the rendering as well.
Looking forward to any further replies!
Great to hear that, thanks for the feedback!
… Hi and thanks to all
finally I found the time to make a new attempt to illustrate why Enscape´s image export concept is wrong - and please forgive me the used term “wrong”, because I don’t know how else to name it. “Wrong” also because Enscapes concept is based on the false assumption that the width of a render scene is the right decision.
Yes, I have already succeeded in this overlapping or matching - but this is only possible because of the artificial situation of my own workplace. As soon as I work on another place, nothing works or better “fits” anymore, and especially not when several people are working on the same project which is the standard case in most offices!. It is not right to insist on the random proportions of a single random working environment.
The good news is: If you would change the input feature in the capture settings to the advantage of the output render height and at the same time allow any desired or needed width input, everything would be perfect (and correct! and by the way, this convention is followed by all competitor products).
I’ve made a video to describe what I mean here but for the conceivable case that I’m just too stupid 8o to follow you, please forgive me and please finally record a video tutorial as well - otherwise we’ll still be writing back and forth for months in ping-pong style
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z6ytsToo0s&feature=youtu.be
Does enscape work with sketchup 2 point perspective? i find that once you set the 2point perspective in sketchup, if you try to pan the view of sketchup to recenter, the enscape view wont update even if it is on sync view
i still get it to work, but it would look better if i could do 2 point perspective. Otherwise just do camera correction in photoshop
… if Enscape could match SkUp´s 2-point perspective - a dream would come true ![]()
As far as I know, this is not possible so far. That´s why Enscape offers its own 2-point perspective feature at least, but unfortunately without matching SkUp´s ![]()
i second that !
that bugs me too …
@EGIESTO , thanks a lot for the video and the further clarification. I do understand your concern, and the “problem” is, is that SketchUp itself has a fixed vertical field of view, but Enscape uses a horizontal field of view. Thus, behaviors like you described here and in the video are unavoidable, currently, at least. I’m sorry about that - this could either be resolved if Enscape would also use a vertical field of view instead, or if we’d support both versions.
I cannot yet give you any information as to when we’re going to implement that though.
I hope this gives you some insight, and I also hope that this won’t negatively influence your workflow all too much.
…thank you Demian very much for this clarification and I’m glad my clumsy video could help
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How unfortunate that the horizontal alignment was the wrong decision here (this is not meant badly !), because, at least as far as it concerns SketchUp as the “mother”-CAD, it prevents any hardware and softwarelayout independent effective teamworkflow at all.
So I kindly ask you to move this PRIO 1++ Requirement into your development (as far forward as possible
) as it is a minimum basic requirement.
Best, Egie
… and to emphasize how important and cool and indispensable this view synckronization is, I share this most wonderful, very entertaining and really worth seeing video here. (The matching scene starts at 21.50 and adds also Podium Render into the range of tools which use the right view matchin concept)
Enjoy ! ![]()
When I used vray 2.o for Sketchup I used “Vray tools” and it had the ability to match viewport outputs exactly. across multiple renders, multiple machines, different years, and it all worked all regardless of the window or monitor size. I would suggest reaching out to Thom Thom and see how he resolved the “Safeframe” issue because it is not impossible to fix this issue.
https://extensions.sketchup.com/en/content/v-ray-tools%C2%B2
It would be great it if it synchronized by height in skp. It is very hard to replicate a view. I have a way around the two point issue but the vertical vs horizontal is hard to work around.