File server hardware setup

Hi, i would like to make a little render farm with 3 render nodes (q6600) 1 work station(q6600 also) and 1 File server(?). I need some help or advice for setting up the file server. I will use it for allocating all the maps, 3d blocks, hdri files, etc (It will be the out put footege), an for alocating files (input) like 3dmax files(projects), animations (Avi,quicktime,etc), fotograms(exrs, hdris,tiff,pngs,jpgs)etc. what type of hard discs y need for this, a single procesor will be fine? , how much for ram i will need, Do i need to setup raid for more speed and raid for buckup?.

Please aby advice will help.

Pd: Remember that this is for a small render farm i need somethig good,nice,and cheap.

thx a lot

Onz

I wouldn’t worry about raid for speed. Your network will probably be your bottleneck. Raid for backup is definitely important. I would spend the money on that. Core 2 Duo, 2 gigs of RAM shouldn’t set you back too much either. We’ve had good success running a Windows Server 2003 machine as a file server, backburner manager, and v-ray license server.

Hi Derik, What do you think about this configuration:

Intel core 2 due E6600(2.4ghz)
4 sata2, 500gb each(what speed?)
10/100/1000 network
intel motherboard
2 gb of ram 667

What type of config of raid do you think y should go? and why?

Thank you very much

Onz

Looks good.

I’d go for 7200 RPM hard drives.

For Raid, I’m only familiar with RAID 0 (speed) RAID 1 (Mirroring) and RAID 5 (Both). Raid 0 and 1 take 2 drives each. Raid 5 takes 4 drives.
Raid 1 in conjunction with daily backups to either an external or tape drive is a good way to go for your critical project files.

Have you considered using Server 2003 as the OS on it?

Have any of you guys tried Windows Server 2008 yet or has it been released?

Raid 5 requires 3 hard drives.

:wink:

our office IT guy told me 2008 is great!great improvement from 2003!

Install one of those on file server, any old computer with a good network card and fast hdds does the job.

or http://www.freenas.org/

both simple and very easy to use

Well, what are the real benefits of running a dedicated server OS versus running something like XP Professional?

With Windows Server you can legally break the 10 computer limit.
You can assign workgroups.
Mail server.
IIS for serving web pages.

Umm. Anything else that I am missing here? Is it somehow any faster or more reliable? Does the overall network somehow behave better???

We have a NAS (sorta harddisk with a network connection). runs very stable.
It does what we need…

maybe this website can help you a bit: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/component/option,com\_nas/Itemid,190/

Yeah - I think that may be the way to go - in particular the D-Link DNS-323 looks pretty good from what I’ve read from a cost-to-performance ratio.

I hate setting up these things on the network however…

That’s not really true. you can in theory up the limit but the server editions simply work differently. I cant really go into great detail (it does different memory handling for example. And the connection limit is not the only network problem with xp). But i can assure you that a switch from a xp manager to a 2k3 manager solved a whole lot of weird problems at once. Not even thinking about running an XP fileserver (shudder).

Regards,
Thorsten

We’re using a Western Digital MyBook World Edition II with 2TB set as RAID 1 as a fileserver.
Unless you want to use your fileserver as job manager for Backburner for example, I’d certainly get a NAS solution. It’s cheap and easy to setup.

it all goes down to what do u need!
if u need storage or a network server server…

Good call ene. :slight_smile:
I’ve only ever seen this setup with 4 drives.

I just installed a NAS - seems like I still hit the 10 connection limit with a few standalone devices and my GF’s laptop.

This sucks. MS sucks lol.

u can bet!
:frowning:
either spare the cash for a pimped server edition or get urself into some linux os…
:wink:

Well - I love Microsoft’s excuse that the 10 connection limit is a security issue to prevent worms from spreading.

I wouldn’t mind if they were honest and outright said that it was a way for them to make more money.

Seeing that I’m not concerned about ‘worms’ spreading, I came across this page which seems to work just fine:

http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php?t31013.html

We have had a lot of good experiences with the Promise and 3ware raid cards. We run mostly RAID 50 (5+0) now but RAID 5 or 6 (Some new cards allow this) is highly recommended.

We have not used NAS devices before but I am sure the work well. You can also get CentOS, which is Red Hat Enterprise, but Open Source. Linux can be a it more complicated but it can definitely serve your drives.

Also make sure you get a good Gigabit Switch and a decent firewall/router to connect all of these together. The Dell switches are quite nice and affordable. I would avoid gigabit switches that seem to cheap, it’s like RAM if its to good to be true…

Advantages to setting up a windows sever, as have been mentioned, are:
- setting it up as a license server if needed
- Using it for BB Server
- Flexible Backup Options (We off load to Hard Drives and archive to tape)
- Remote access through VPN (If using windows sever)

These are just what I can think of, and believe me I am no windows advocate. But we run Max so we must use the doze.

If you have any other questions I’ll try to help