Rendering doesn't start (new version of V-ray)

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Same issue here, I posted on it repeatedly. Models of any serious size simply won’t render. I have contacted support and sent them one of the models I had trouble with. They haven’t been able to render it either, and are looking for a solution. Haven’t heard from them for a few days now, though. Like other posters, I had no trouble rendering the same model in the previous Vray version, and a newer, even larger version of it renders fine in iRender nxt, of which I am running a demo. I must say that I am now considering moving to that iRender altogether and am wondering if vray has a money back guarantee.

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Give them a chance to bring out a patch. There was some bumps with the last release - but it was fixed.

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I need you guys need to understand… there are 3 developers, 1 support person. If you don’t hear back from us, it’s not because we’re sitting here having a fancy party… it’s because those 4 people are fixing your problems as quickly as they can.

I’m not saying that we don’t want to hear from you, and I’m not trying to make excuses… I just want to be clear why you’re not being responded to, aside form the fact that the forum is a place for users to help users, not for ASGvis to help users. I don’t think many people realize that. We try to answer some questions on here, but it’s primarily a place for users to collaborate, discuss, learn, and grow. support@asgvis.com is who you contact if you are having problems with the product, and you would like ASGvis to address the issue.

I only am mentioning this so you guys know what’s going on, and why you’re not getting instant responses. Please continue to contact us and let us know what’s on your mind, just be aware that if you don’t hear from us for a bit, it’s because we have an insane amount of email coming in that we need to support. If you’re upset about that, all I can say is that I personally am sorry that this release didn’t go as smoothly as we had all wanted it to. We will be patching this product soon and hope to fix any major issues we have heard of.

Now… enough of that rant, on to the problem at hand…

If the scene doesn’t render, there’s an error happening. As 40th previously mentioned, we have an error log that’s filled with stuff that none of you guys should understand. This is a very helpful thing when it comes to trying to debug any issues you guys have brought to us. Unfortunately there isn’t a way to have that error log automatically sent to us at the moment, so the only way that file’s really going to be of any use, is to copy and paste the contents of that file, in to a forum post so we can look at it.

There are also some errors that will display in the SketchUp Ruby Console. If you open that ruby console while using our product, if something bad happens, it might print out there. If it doesn’t print out there, it should print out in the error log.

if only the developers could point out to us, users, what are the indicators for the errors that shown in the “error log”.

Yeah, hopefully we’ll have a bit more information about some of the errors and what they mean… after we get a list of all of the errors. Unfortunately we don’t know all of the error messages can pop up, so as we learn more about the issues people are having, we will be able to answer more of these questions, and fix more of these issues.

As far as refunds go… there is no physical product to return and as a rule we do not offer refunds, most of you got the software at a price $100 off of the normal retail price, and it would be a shame if you had to hand over the extra $100 bucks in a few weeks when we have everything fixed. Although I’d gladly accept any extra money you would like to give us, just for the heck of it.

Thinking of switching to another render engine? Okay, have fun. We hope you’ll come back, but if you don’t we understand. It’s not that we don’t care, it’s just that we aren’t going to lie to you and try to convince you otherwise. We don’t want you to be unhappy with our product, but I guess the only way to fix that is to just fix it, and stop wasting time on the forums. On that note… ::goes and fixes something::

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jon2 - No, this is definitely not an issue with memory, you are correct. Check out this post:
http://forum.asgvis.com/index.php?topic=7541.msg43614#msg43614

it might help you find the needle in the haystack.

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Thanks, I’ll dig through there and try to find the offending object.

Let it be known, I can’t say enough positive things about how you guys keep us notified here in the forums of who,what and when something is up. The same cannot be said for many other software titles I use. I appreciate it, even if it’s just a notice to everyone that you are working on an issue. That in itself is huge.

My post was just in case others were running into the same, and just in case any of the info helped. As stated, the model I was attempting was rough. Though sketchup found no errors in it, maybe I had some lines crossed in an unusual fashion, or maybe it will turn out to be part of the issue others are having.

I took this chance to wipe my PC today and reinstall everything, so both sketchup and Vray versions are going on clean. I’ll be messing with it and searching thru the error log a bit this weekend. I’ll report back on it next week if things were better/worse/same.

Thanks again for being here.

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from time to time with my render test i have an issue of not rendering. i understand that the developers are trying their best and we need to be patient.

in my case what i do is save the file, restart sketchup, open the file and render again. then it works.. at the moment this is what i am doing. its abit frustrating but better than nothing.

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@ nomeradona-I too save restart computer and SU and 90% it works then. A little frustrating but until patch i can hold back my tears

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you actually have to restart the computer? restarting SU isn’t enough?

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I just do that to out of habit when i run into software issues. But i have done just SU reboot and it has successfully began rendering.

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Also - often a log out and log in will just just as much as rebooting the computer - only faster.

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Devin, I didn’t mean to imply that the Vray support team is whiling its time away doing nothing, I found the people I was in touch with very helpful and am sure they are hard at work solving the problem.

The frustration is simply this, as someone on the Sketchuop forum pointed out, that paying customers who have a right to expect a functional product are in fact turned into involuntary beta testers. I have Vray sitting around uselessly on my PC for over two weeks now. At some point I think I have a right to feel that some sort of compensation would be in order.

I don’t know how they put it to effect, but iRender actually does have a 30 day money back guarantee. Otherwise, I must admit that my enthusiasm for that software has waned more than a little after I got an error message recently saying that iRender, too, has problems handling large models. Isn’t that ironic… Do developers of plugin render software for SU not take into account the possibility that SU models may grow to over 20MB in size? (a logical thing to consider, since the latest version of SU is optimized for handling large models, which it does beautifully…)

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Understood, I wasn’t pointing fingers, just trying to explain the situation for everyone. We really appreciate the patience everyone has had with this release, and we hope to have it in working order as soon as we can.

As far as rendering engines supporting large SU models, that is actually Google’s fault. Although SketchUp can handle larger models fairly well in the viewport now, their API is rather difficult to work with. They don’t hand us data in a nice and orderly way, they just hand us a pile of stuff we need to sort through. I don’t want to get started on another SU rant this early in the day, but needless to say… we’re a bit handicapped. Even the limit on the amount of memory we are able to use for rendering is limited by SketchUp. Hopefully they’ll beef up the API some in the near future. It seems like with the latest releases they have started to take more interest in plugin developers.

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Well, I think we can agree that the Google take-over did SU no favors… I wonder what the software would have been if @Last had developed it further. I hate the way SU nowadays is geared towards the quick and easy production of simple (and often pretty dismal) Google Earth models. If Google would look upon SU as a serious 3D software instead of as a Google Earth extension, things might well improve.

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Yea - it feels like it’s not competing to be a modeller tool now. Just a Google Maps/Earth tool… :confused:

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Do developers of plugin render software for SU not take into account the possibility that SU models may grow to over 20MB in size?

I agree with you sir, this is preposterous! I could care less about your memory limitations, I would like to model and render the entire bloody planet in under ten mins with only two gigs of available RAM and I jolly well want it done fast.

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They seem to be making efforts to clean their act up, but they haven’t taken any action yet. I guess time will tell!

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Excuse me, constable… I don’t know how much of this thread you’ve been reading, but one thing seems to be clear, memory is not the issue here. Actually, I don’t mind waiting a day for a render to finish (at times I waited longer than that, I know my machine’s limitations), as long as I get one in the end…!

Nice beard.

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I’m looking for an update on the status of the many issues related to the new version, like these in this thread and others. I’m having a little trouble finding any status updates if there are any. Have any fixes or reported workarounds been figured out yet? Any patches or anything yet. I keep getting emails about the great new features, new features manual, new materials and such. But I can’t find if any patches or workarounds have been reported yet. And not being able to render at all puts a damper on all the fun.

ie:
Windows7 64bit issues
issues related to Renders refusing to start
Material import issues
Materials not showing in viewport, or just showing as black
Materials not being listed the same from Vrays mat list and Sketchup’s mat list

Just hoping for a status update here. Thank you.

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We are currently beta testing the latest changes, all updates and news are contained in the beta testing area, which is not visible to most users (we only want valid feedback for the current version in progress). Many issues have been fixed, and we are nearing release of a patch of some sort, however there may still be another patch after this, depending upon how much longer we have to wait on a fix for DR.

That being said:

Windows7 64bit issues - what issue are you referring to?

issues related to Renders refusing to start - Fixed all of them we’ve seen so far

Material import issues - I believe we got all of these

Materials not showing in viewport, or just showing as black - Not sure what you’re referring to

Materials not being listed the same from Vrays mat list and Sketchup’s mat list - yup, that’s been addressed mostly. Any remaining issues with this are related to SketchUp not notifying us properly, and will not be fixed. The debug tool will need to be used for those.

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Hi, i think i could divide my experince with u guys ( also for staff ).

that happened for me too sometimes. And i made somethink that fixed for me ( also though a bit pain , because i work with interiors scene, with lot of materials automaticly linked to this new vray, from many and many blocks, etc.. )

Well, what i did was changing the name ( in sketchup ’ in model’ list, is more easy… the vray will automaticly update anyway ) of ALL MATERIALS for SIMPLE characteres, like A01, A02, A03, A04…

I didnt used any symbols, like / ? ; _ - ~ , anything.

I think exist some issue with symbolic characteres. I hope this can help staff and u guys to investigate better.

Cheers,
Rodrigo ( and sorry my bad english )