Rendering doesn't start (new version of V-ray)

I have made a drawing in Sketchup and i was trying to render it, but it won’t start rendering. I made a youtube movie of the problem, but there is nothing special to see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi7qdwSzU28&ap=%2526fmt%3D18.

The weird thing is that if I open another design and just push the render button it starts rendering and it does work.

In this design the only materials i included are glass the other ones are the standard sketchup materials. And i use the default settings to render.

The other messages on the forum i saw were all with an error message, but i haven’t got any. Hope someone could help!

Re: Rendering doesn’t start (new version of V-ray)

I have found exactly the same thing happens. I had wondered if it was complexity in a model but even a very simple model does not work.

Re: Rendering doesn’t start (new version of V-ray)

Some older scenes may have some corrupted data in them, or mismatched materials (meaning that some materials either don’t appear in the SketchUp material list, or the V-Ray material editor). Try using some of the new Debugging tools:

http://forum.asgvis.com/index.php?topic=7504.0

If none of those seem to help, try posting your error log:

http://forum.asgvis.com/index.php?topic=7503.0

Let us know if you continue to have difficulty.

Re: Rendering doesn’t start (new version of V-ray)

So i did all the above. I cleaned the txt file and started the process over again. I also uploaded the txt file on my own website. So you can download it and i hope it will help solving this issue. Still the weird thing is that i made this model when the new version was installed. I have made some test files and there it works, but with this one it doesn’t.

http://www.proseduction.nl//images/vfs_stderr.txt

Re: Rendering doesn’t start (new version of V-ray)

Just looked over your error log.

KeyError: u’/ Translucent_Glass_Gray’

that error tells me that you didn’t run the Force Sync for All Materials tool in our debugging menu. Please close SketchUp, open up a fresh instance of SketchUp, load the scene you’re having problems with, run the Force Sync tool, and then try to render.

Re: Rendering doesn’t start (new version of V-ray)

I have uploaded a new one where i did use the debug method. Still no luck! I even removed the translucent materials, but this didn’t help! Now i am gonna try to remove all materials and see what happens then!

http://www.proseduction.nl//images/vfs\_stderr.txt

Okay when i removed all materials i got a bugsplat so that also doesn’t help.

Re: Rendering doesn’t start (new version of V-ray)

Perhaps it would be easier to pick this apart if we had the scene here at our office to play with. Would it be possible for you to give us a copy of the offending scene?

Re: Rendering doesn’t start (new version of V-ray)

Rapid share is horrible, we don’t have or want a paid account. You can take that file down, since we have no way of obtaining it from that site. Could you please send us a bug report about this? Just send an email to vfswip@asgvis.com (note to anyone that reads this: please don’t just send stuff here unless we know about it, otherwise we might not look at it for a while… like a month… or five). That way we can continue this conversation off of the forum, so you don’t have to share anything publicly.

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There is a free download option - you have to wait 30-60 seconds first though.

Re: Rendering doesn’t start (new version of V-ray)

Except more and more often the “free” servers are down these days. ::slight_smile: >:frowning:

Re: Rendering doesn’t start (new version of V-ray)

Yes i can agree on the free issue of rapidshare. I used the email to sent the skp aswell as the error log. I hope you canuse it.

Re: Rendering doesn’t start (new version of V-ray)

Yes, we have received the files you sent us. We are currently investigating the issue, and will let you know what we find.

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About to make our qapp
after make qapp
C:\ProgramData\ASGVIS\Python26\Lib\site-packages\Ft\Lib\__init__.py:47: DeprecationWarning: functions overriding warnings.showwarning() must support the ‘line’ argument
self.message = messages % msgargs
C:\ProgramData\ASGVIS\Python26\Lib\site-packages\Ft\Lib\__init__.py:47: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6
self.message = messages % msgargs
C:\ProgramData\ASGVIS\Python26\Lib\site-packages\Ft\Lib\__init__.py:48: DeprecationWarning: functions overriding warnings.showwarning() must support the ‘line’ argument
Exception.__init__(self, self.message, args)
C:\ProgramData\ASGVIS\Python26\Lib\site-packages\Ft\Lib\__init__.py:48: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6
Exception.__init__(self, self.message, args)
C:\ProgramData\ASGVIS\Python26\Lib\site-packages\Ft\Xml\Catalog.py:583: DeprecationWarning: functions overriding warnings.showwarning() must support the ‘line’ argument
e.message),
C:\ProgramData\ASGVIS\Python26\Lib\site-packages\Ft\Xml\Catalog.py:583: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6
e.message),
C:\ProgramData\ASGVIS\Python26\Lib\site-packages\Ft\Xml\Catalog.py:584: DeprecationWarning: functions overriding warnings.showwarning() must support the ‘line’ argument
FtWarning)
FtWarning: Catalog resource (file:///C:/Python26/Share/4Suite/default.cat) disabled: Error retrieving resource ‘file:///C:/Python26/Share/4Suite/default.cat (C:\\Python26\\Share\\4Suite\\default.cat)’: No such file or directory: ‘C:\\Python26\\Share\\4Suite\\default.cat’
C:\ProgramData\ASGVIS\VfS\\VRayPlugins.xml
Made it after UIManager.initialize
C:\ProgramData\ASGVIS\Python26\Lib\site-packages\Ft\Xml\InputSource.py:346: DeprecationWarning: functions overriding warnings.showwarning() must support the ‘line’ argument
FtWarning, 2)
FtWarning: Creation of InputSource without a URI

That is what i get from the log after i try Rendering a couple times. I am using fastrender preview .visopt. sometimes it renders very very quickly and it looks great. Other times it says its rendering the scene and the Framebuffer never comes up. And when i click it, it then discontinues the rendering.

I have tried debugging numerous times but it did address the bigger issue.

I really cant talk much more about it because i am just so confused as to why it is all happening. I will continue to model and texture my file but i do hope i can send it your way to have the team take a look?

Let me know if this is a possibility.

-Gallystops-

Many times my error log will also display things similar too…

http://www.proseduction.nl//images/vfs_stderr.txt
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Thanks proseduction :wink:

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I received a message from the team that there we’re two new bugs I had discovered! (Lucky me) The first one they were able to explain. That was when there are / in the name of the material it was not able to render.

The other issue was to complicated for them to explain. So i can’t tell you what that issue was… I hope this could help you with your rendering.

Re: Rendering doesn’t start (new version of V-ray)

Where were you during the beta? ;D

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I’m experiencing the same issue, the rendering doesn’t start. No crash, just “vray processing the scene” and then nothing.
I’ve tried all 3 of the debagging tools, no luck there.
Looking at the text log I don’t know what to look for…
I’ve uploaded the text log www.mediafire.com/?rhnng2zwrzz

Edit: I found the material that caused the problem. It was chrome material. That’s odd because the material were just a color diffuse and reflection layer.

Re: Rendering doesn’t start (new version of V-ray)

I have seen what appears to be this same problem with rendering that just won’t start.

I’m using sketchup 7.1.6087. I’m using the new VfSU on a Windows7-64-bit pc.

I started a new file in sketchup 7.1+ after installing the new Vray. I was able to do some rendering with no troubles early on in the file, but soon it stopped working. The first bad sign were crashes to desktop after hitting the render button. The error messages were vague and just basically said “appcrash”.

Then the crashes stopped happening but hitting the render button simply did nothing.

The only lights in the model are a couple rectangular lights, some set as light portals, some regular. The model is of a rough house. The walls/floors/windows/doors are all trash quickies and poorly done. Just wanted to quickly make something to test lighting inside and out on an odd floorplan. We are talking a 2mb file here. small right?

I did check the file for errors within sketchup, none were reported. I ended up trying all three debugging options and none helped it to render this file.

I did notice I am having the problem where materials added thru VfSU are not showing in Sketchup’s material panel. So, one of those debugging options was worthless for me right? Since it will only rebuild the couple of default materials sketchup is showing…(now the file copy is less then 1mb of course.)

Anyway. Previously today, I sent an error message to Support through the Link inside the Vray plugin menu explaining the same. Just thought I’d add mine to the collection here.

Does this sound like the issues others are having with windows7-64bit ?

I also have gotten the below error occasionally when trying to open the file, but only occasionally. And it opens the file anyway.

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That’s interesting as I might have a chrome material in mine as well. I’ll have to check. But shouldn’t the debugging tools have wiped all materials out? That should have fixed that, should it not?

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Ok, I looked to see if I had a chrome material and I didn’t(different model I was thinking of). I did however have a platinum material still in there. Even after the debug was run on the materials. So one by one I deleted all remaining materials and tried to render until there was nothing left but the default sketchup material left. (so nothing listed in vray or sketchup). Still would not render.

So I saved a copy and started some sweeping deletions of lines/shapes and repeatedly trying to render. After the garage section, slab roof shape and part of the homes floor was gone, the file finally rendered!

So, with zero materials and half the home torn apart it finally rendered. Something either in the way I created the roof/floor/garage or simple the complexity of the model was stopping it from rendering I guess.

If it is size, this is going to hurt until fixed. Because I had to strip this file down to 300+ kb before it would render. It was already down to 440+kb after yanking the materials and that didn’t work.

This pc rendered 12-50 mb files no problem on the old version. Can’t be a ram issue unless the ram is just being used differently now. Can it?

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I used the Sync and temp files removal tools. Since I didn’t want to wipe all vray set materials.
I hate to hear that you had to go through all this mess to be able start the rendering, but the size of the SU file doesn’t plays a roll here. Maybe one of the elements which you deleted and “fixed” the issue, had some geometry error.

Anyway, in the new VfS the developers added an “Error Log” which writes/shows what’s went wrong. But it’s almost impossible to understand it, if only the developers could point out to us, users, what are the indicators for the errors that shown in the “error log”.