Threadripper & Ryzen builds

This thread contains a lot of information on compatible hardware for AMD Threadripper CPUs from Zen 2 onwards.
Post your build and get some advice on your specs.

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I Noticed someone posted a benchmark today for the new 32 core amd ryzen threadripper 2990wx.
It had an x4 next to the cpu name. Is that using 4 of the processors? Or is it because there are 4 dies per processor?
The result was far from spectacular at 42 seconds. still WAY over the fastest xeon result but decent for a prosumer grade sku.
But still seeing that its double the core count of the previous 16 core threadripper at a decent clock speed its surprising that they only managed to shave off 15ish seconds.

It was tested using one threadripper at factory settings. So I guess the 4 stands for the dies within.
You can read the corresponding article here (they submitted the corona bench afterwards).

The result is really good and can compete even with the Xeon 8180.
But the question is how the CPU will perforn on memory intense scenes, since the memory intertface has severe problems.

Its ppretty decent yeah im just surprised that it isnt quicker given i can hit 01:02 on my 16 core. granted at a higher clock speed. Its still pretty amazing though! Glad to see a drop in price of the 1950x too

There’s already a new benchmark at 37sec. There’s also a benchmark for the 2950x at 1:04:99.

PCWorld has a video review that shows Corona scaling almost linearly above the 1950x (assuming both are at stock speeds.)

Right around 7:40:

I’m on an overclocked 1950x now. Just waiting for a few more reviews and benchmarks to trickle out before I upgrade. Almost 2x the performance seems worth it…

Im still running an old 8 core amd FX on my home pc but now 1950x is going to be cheaper i might invest in a new rig. Im super impressed by AMD though they have kind of cornered the market when it comes for bang for buck cpus. Would be interesting to see what people cansqueeze out of it and what the closest intel sku is in terms of speed vs price.

1950X has treated me amazingly well. The only glitch I ran into was having to return some non-compatible memory. Super picky CPU that way.

Yeah i built 4 1950x machines for work and the part selection was a bit of a pain but i think the new ryzen 16 core in the v2 range might be a bit easier.

I’m just hoping my Taichi has enough juice to let me overclock the 2990wx a little. Planning to do a 1 for 1 swap after a bios update. Not sure what I’ll do with my old 1950x…maybe build a new machine, except RAM is so expensive.

youd hope although ive heard people say its worrying the mobo manufacturers and might need extra cooling

Interesting stuff going on here with Blender in Linux vs Windows comparisons:

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=2990wx-linux-windows&num=4

Is the way windows is handling large core count CPU’s whats crippling the performance or something else? I hear rumours that Windows’ NUMA handling is abysmal. Across the board in any app tested on that site the Linux version seems to decimate the Windows variant…

Corona devs can you weigh in on this?

Could it be that blender on linux is more optimised/faster than blender for windows? It would be interesting to see these tests with like a current gen i7 to see if its a standard thing.

Interesting to see a 36 second benchmark pop up @ 4ghz. That’s almost perfect scaling. I think mine at 3.9ghz was around a minute. Tempting, if I just knew that the Taichi would support OCing to 3.9 or so…

Our 2990WX is home :- ) This will be Veronika’s new workstation.

Parts: 2990WX + MSI MEG X399 Creation / Seasonic Prime 1300W / 64 GB @ 3000 MHZ / 1 TB 960 PRO as main drive / 2TB + 2TB 960 EVO as secondary drives for photography / Shit ton of Noctua Cromax finally in black :- ) / U14S TR4 cooler, until second revision of Enermax Liqtech 360 ( II version, with stupid RGB ) is out and was widely tested for longevity ) / Define R6 / nVidia RTX, not sure which one yet

Very cool! Can’t wait to get mine :smiley:

Nice setup Juraj! This is almost exactly what I’m looking at getting, except with a 2TB 970 EVO as the main drive. Can’t seem to find the MSI MEG in stock anywhere in the UK though :cry:

I have to say I’m SUPER skeptical about that Enermax cooler after all of the horror stories with the V1. I’m either going full custom waterloop or sticking the biggest aircooler I can find on it with as many fans as possible - this looks good: http://thermalright.com/product/silver-arrow-tr4/

What 64GB RAM kit did you get btw? I’m getting some mixed messages about what the best kit is to run at 3000mhz min speeds. People are concerned that the 2990wx memory controller won’t be able to handle 64gb+ at those speeds/with decent timings.

Hey Agent :- )

  • I found single available (right now) source of MSI MEG on CyberPort. Apparently it was in stock…but after I paid, it still says ready to ship in 24 hour…for the whole week. No idea when I will get it, but it’s not in stock anywhere else in Europe.

  • I went through the QVL list for days. Holy crap is that a shitty QVL list. 500 Euro workstation board…and they keep testing 8GB modules in 8/16/32 configurations :confused: There are very few 16GB modules in 64GB/128GB configurations and most of them are not even brands you can buy in Europe. And of course, I am not gonna pay 1000 Euro for some idiotic Trident-Z G-Skill which isn’t on the QVL in 16GB modules anyway despite being Threadripper exclusive. In the end I found Corsair Vengeance at 3000 Mhz (so 2933 manually running) that is not any sort of magical Samsung B-Die or whatever is hyped to work best, but it was 680 Euro on Amazon.de, and that is price I can sadly live with.
    I seriously hope it will run well at 2933 and correct timings.

The QVL is nightmare. Even if I find something you can actually buy in Europe on it (Corsair, Crucial, Adata & G.Skill), find in on some e-shop or amazon/ebay, it will be some newer revision with single letter changed in name and of course completely different maker. The same Corsair kit can be made by Samsung in February, tested on QVL, but then discountinued in April because newer version made by Hynix entered market. AMD needs to sort this. Nobody has time for this.

  • I am extremely skeptical of Enermax unit as well. This is 4000+ Euro workstation, I am not gonna let rusty pump leak all over it and destroy it during project and then haggle with warranty (which is never guaranteed). It is the only powerful cooler on the market though and apparently second revision is on market, but of course you can’t buy it anywhere. So maybe in six months ?

  • I don’t know if I have patience and will to pay for custom loop. EK didn’t even design their TR4 CPU block properly, it was pure failure last year and had worse performance than cheapest Air. They had revision afterwards but I still believe it sucks. I didn’t check what sort of loop Deba8er was running on that fancy schmancy Epyc dual-loop at Gamescom but obviously there are better CPU block pieces now. Still, that would be another 400 Euro investment and the whole idea of Threadripper is that it is affordable. Paying for overpriced MSI board just because every other board is pure failed design from phases point is enough, but over-paying on everything (Board + memory + custom loop) is bringing the whole idea of this workstation into uncomfortable territory for me. I am not a guy who likes wasting money on frills and custom loop is very much a frill.

  • Same about the Thermalight Silver Arrow TR4. Apparently this cooler is on market since June…then where is it ?? You can’t buy this crap anywhere. I’ve seen people pre-ordering it on ebay Japan. This cooler looks like total nonexisting vaporware.
    If it enters the European market, I would buy it since it looks on par with Noctua NH-D15, which Noctu has NO intention of bringing to TR4 because apparently there isn’t any market for it and they are too lazy to redesign it allow enough clearance over PCI-E and memory modules on such large socket.

I would not be such an early adopter with all this pain but Veronika really needs workstation right now so I just decided to go with it anyway.

Great looking system!

It sounds like you’ve heard all the stories but for what it’s worth I had an Enermax Liqtech 360 fail on me for my first gen threadripper. Not fun, I’d keep a watchful eye on that thing. I switched to Noctua and have been a lot happier while still running very cool (push\pull with an aggressive fan curve.)

Well, that sucks : /. Hope it didn’t destroy anything in process.

I plan on placing additional A15PWM fan on the U14, not that it will do more than 2-3C difference but still. It’s not like I have choice of going with anything else :- ).

Thanks for the insight. I’ve send my boss a list for new components (2990wx, msi-399 AND Enermax cooler) literally 5minutes ago. Changed it to Thermalight Silver Arrow TR4.